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2-20 8am Tommy, should doctors talk to patients about guns?

Feb 20, 2017|

Tommy talks to Arthur Caplan, the Director of the Medical Ethics Program at the NYU Langone Medical Center, about whether doctors should talk to their patients about guns and gun safety.

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Now it's Tommy Tucker WW LA MF and the dot com so what is it now political stress of an all time behind yes yes or were maxed out. Some of the psychologists. Yet some point you would think. We either adjust or adapt. Where change what it is it's stressing a sound and many thanks settled down now. Or share away from an idea I think that's probably the best advice some people I think are already doing that was like he. They blow up after an hour of of the news channels these staff and get away from. I can't imagine. Like as in money put it this way I think you're very lucky if you were in a relationship. Where the two of you can watch the news. Or of first off I agree on what. Channels from which you're gonna get you news right that's bursting yet do and then tent and look at it in and watch it and make comments. And both agree. Yeah because when you when you put it on a channel. Oh lord news channel and then you hear some and and and one person makes a comment about Donald Trump Mineola the president trump and the other one says something. That is not too good dead you can see where the conflict were to happen right exactly. One thing it's good is omelet and on everything on scene is sane at the pelicans got the better of the Sacramento kings of the strayed. Yeah they. The kings got a lot they go to like our players address and selling and got the better memory Aden. I'm so here's what's going on in Florida there was a law. That prevented doctors from talking to patients. About gun safety and that was designed to protect people's Second Amendment Rights. Problem is from. You gotta First Amendment right their too and I would think. One the government tells doctors especially. What they can't talk to their patients about. That's not good I don't think it's good you tell me what you think it's 60187. It was overturned. And others saying that doctors can talk to their patients about guns and course if you don't like with the doctor says he knows he'll find another one. But we'll talk about the NC 60187. Is that a conversation you would have with your doctor. And would you be offended if he brought it up any senators and sodium any guns the have them locked up tell me about them. How Heidi keep away in this and any of things art Caplan joins us right now we spoke in the dike Kaplan before he's the director of the medical ethics program at the NYU laying on medical center and chances are you've seen him on the CBS evening news in morning senator. Thanks taking time with this tell me about this Florida law and what was the design the the intended purpose of it in the beginning before the courts get to. Look sometimes known is that the burst is Glock law. Well legislatures. Where worries that doctors would be eating resting gun owners. But I bring up the topic of gun safety when they talked to him asking questions about Q Monica and yeah ago thousands of stored safely and that sort effects. So they tried to pass a law that says you cannot bring that topic. He and doctor patient conversation. Florida. Court Supreme Court just ruled that that was. Unconstitutional. And infringed on free speech in the doctor's right to talk about. Would be deemed appropriate in the doctor patient relationship. Bettany seem like a no brainer that. Personal doctor has of freedom as they would areas say and secondly especially as it relates to a doctor patient. Relationships so did a goodwill was what were they afraid of that. Somehow doctor's waiting on rants against guns or maybe some Iraqi erect a record of who had guns not. Well a little bit in the latter but the former. Deeply worried they'd be coercing bullying domino mail. I have to admit they uber. Bringing up. With patience but it doesn't safety. Give him particular pediatricians. And what to get their kids in the count and wanna make sure that kids know what to do it they would find again. Ian. Because a lot of them shoot themselves accidentally issues. Somebody else in little kids and they needed the issue just make sure store them safely if you. Predict we wouldn't children so obviously there's no place for doctors. Bully anybody and any wouldn't even do that say about smoke. What you go again I mean. I guess they goes a relationship between you and your doctor because. I mean how do you draw the line between bullying in. Art and advises eating on a legacy of doctor de L followup about knee replacement surgery and he's of he's got to bully me but he's gonna be adamant that I continue to go to physical therapy. Oh great right we will have strong you're going to be on top of things but. He can threaten them by the year. You know sort of them and that kind of thing that's so appropriate doctor patient relationship. In the four record. If you don't like doctor you know what you can do. And yummy only on the waiting room and I guess. He needs that. Right it. So it went. Which is the over reaction first of all. To be frank about it most doctors getting it into the issue currency you know much and they don't have the time authorities. Are trying to figure it'll lose weight eating controlling diabetes is make sure you bankrupt. Yeah and CE there's no secret and seem more patience in an a day because reimbursement continues ago down. And he got so it would be great if they left some literature. In the waiting room because I think that's going to be a bit of Russia sorry disappointment in two. To get after that. So what about the underlying issue about. Gun safety in treating that is a health issue. I agree you know that you can and leading cause of death by suicide in bill meals seat 1950. We have a big problem to achieve themselves accidentally. People who. Look at this in port in the NC room service like gosh this is constant of fortune and he was done. Violence gun accidents. Thumb we got to do better in terms of health into and let. You wanna make sure that people. Store that safely that they understand with kids ramming into the responsible. Yeah I think there are things that you can do the mixed help would practically given the costs not just in terms of debt. But injuries. There are so it was. An easy one man can relate to go down. Well I think the way to handle the different issues to get on the same team so broke into again. Everybody can beat it and sixteen back because he is closed doctors so stretch and pull together. Thank you sir appreciate your time you know we have a good day. Arthur Caplan director of the medical ethics program. At the NYU Lang don't medical center silence you when we come back is that something. What if your doctors started talking you'd during a in on and I got to boil Andy's lancing the boil and he says that you get a the egg on an home. Anthony's like what one why it would and then he starts telling you're she starts lecturing you on. Gun safety and I shouldn't say lecturing because that sounds. Pejorative and everybody wants to keep guns out of the hands of kids and family members. Well you know where they can be an accidental shooting. On how to think about it C 60187. Need a law has already been stricken down and I think. It was based on six anecdotal stories and on and now anybody that had any. Sense at all would think that a court would uphold this doesn't violates First Amendment to meet clearly. But do you think that's something doctors should talk to patients about. And would you be open to discussing your gun ownership. With your doctor however the court did uphold the part that some parts of locker remain on the books such as provisions allowing patients to decline to answer questions about guns. And prohibiting health insurance companies from denying coverage or increasing premiums for people who lawfully owned guns and you can imagine. If when they were doing your homeowners it company which is how many guns in the house. Old. There's no multi gun discount actually be just the opposite Bob river ridge where he had here and have a WL morning. NATO and world right now. You know what you're going to be. A call. Okay. You know ego by the ship and you're not out. That would get you know I'll sit there and sit and talk in. Asia we talk about this thing. As long ago. That's between. The light is not on the job. Our you know it's a person's you know implementation and you know I appreciate it you know the. How would you feel your doctor have brought it up on I don't know who use CNET mention any names but. I. Mean you know. You know off. I don't taking it real personal. Would you answer him if he says made up. Bob Europe and excellence great man I'm telling you have never seen when he alike this and then my legacy he'll make an amount not the point com. Spent any says. By the lady at any guns in the house would you and answer immune engage him in a conversation about them. I'm telling you at all in its I don't know an opulent it might like what doc and I can't purge all around and aunts and you know me. How much do you have any. Yeah. Well well that is a mark on difficult on useful like ensign Shelby amendment. Yeah yeah oh yeah be a difficult case in for a point on is. I would think it came out of left field my initial response would be. Take it to a quick Stewart went to see that he is one time ten years ago. And I was born at eight months old and instead of hopefully with Gil and this little bitty kind of knelt with a with. Should be. I'm seeing a doctor about my need and the middle of me explaining what kind of knee problem my hand he says it cannot be cut those throws a four year. And yes the point is I don't. I don't I'm not worried about the vote right now more about the need zones that are worried about the guns in the house of what you're about cure in what I am now. And then we'll go from the Politico. No problem have a good day lieutenants enters Oreo expenses. Agca is awfully well injury could but they're fine when they aren't being polite to splash on YouTube. From Oslo Norway nano. And in this day and age of and I guess gender identification. And nobody knows that this is a hoax or not I guess because of everything that's going home says you realize that sixteen inches again at. As our realizes she's a cap says she was born her own species because of a genetic defect she's attacked trapped in the human body know or. She speaks and the owls to a friend hisses at dogs hates water pure and says he has superior sense of smell and concede in the dark. Onward to the good work and on that change yelling while mama dead my tests would be climb the tree. Yeah yeah honestly Iowa and get stock again erupting cloud and it's freeing its start then your cat. And downy when asked about the litter box Lisa knew Collins hi you're on DeVon WL the morning. Lease. Hey it. And you on WW good morning. The day and I'm me. Man I don't change and what I am. In. Which. Actually. Shot. And on. The situation. Where one. So mom web slinging. Every year and that question ever and I are linked in general they. All many acts of wearing that we look weird. Gone all the they have children or grandchildren. Almon child calm and all that you look. Well you are and ask job well. So did you take any offense that this and all you thought it was a good thing that he was doing this. Her. Bullpen I I I I need. I applaud at 100 shaft and into a war. And perhaps there would be something some literature are. Something that all who. You know the doctor at it you know Irish. I hope you mean that would I'm Buehrle shouldn't this say in making sure that my kids as a band. You don't want but don't have a problem with it. All of that was how wonderful things joke being alone am. Do you. And a nation Lisa appreciate you call literally do and I like dance other parents out there at 260187. Needs using your pediatrician. Mom. Did they ask you about having a gun and a home or just a regular doctor and if they would how would you react do you think that's. While not to be rude and any doctor's business of what he had a gun or not enough Marines something here Dan indicates there is at least according to a police investigator that's. From. Taking a FaceBook there is of pretty bad crime problem in Sweden that. Happened after the immigrants came in zone and while there wasn't one specific incident. Bomb to which like the president referred I think. There might be some. Truth there because of the because of the crime that area are experiencing and at one point the police and ask the community now about Tom North Shore high here on WW good morning. Mara thought hey I right from gun magazines haven't covered extort twenty year old little war. Doctors and guns. They tell me tell me how this Soledad started. Start with and the American pediatrics association put out. What part operate basically took a position against government should pandemic without our recommendation. To PD pediatricians saying you'd be asking about guns now. Note that these doctors have up to notre firearms say these are currently out there bowl and they're ignorant. And unfortunately what you'll probably. All the return in orbit or better preparation than typical art armor. Record now obviously. They're so little to. Well actually I was part of the Affordable Care Act. That the records be kept electronically in in nobody column channeling trying to lead that are. You know it's all part of this idea that guns Aurilia public help out here. It typified by others so there wouldn't be control from twenty years ago when. The embassy that their goal researcher on if the band and that's when congress to blow. In that folder funding for a better partner reserves so it has been going quote twenty years so that supports the latest skirmish about. See I'm not I'm not happy about the government. Getting in between. A patient and the doctor whether it be for prescription oatmeal Lloyds whether it's for. Big gun counseling if you wanna call it better whatever that's that's for the doctored to determine and I think. Among the many relationships one of the most sacrosanct would be between a doctor and patient. And if you think doctors are run in pill mills will crack down on them. Or are you monitoring for whatever reason and and I guess and doctors and I don't know it just seems like. Did doctor knows better. And the patient the doctor and his patient patient knows doctor and any other government come and in a room inside mood LE YU here. Except the war. And I understand there are some doctors and abuse of privilege that the pain pills and etc. Bomb bowling game then they need to be cracked Annie the American Medical Association do their own policing of the government thank you Tom. Let you call it like to know though if a doctor. Mom. Said the or at least talk to you. Blow. Guns. Attack stems and mine has been asking me to the last four years. Someone answers the same no onions. But I think part of this too is have you ever lied to a doctor and they re all man Elaine off the sweets oh absolutely. He sure oh yeah yeah absolutely you cut back on a drink and you know it or talk about boots on the ground in Syria to deal with ices. Next hour and boy would have to see. A clear cut plan with clear cut objectives and how to we know we're done. Before you get into this mess but it like you know what you think in 260187. You'll kick it off with major Mike Lyons friend of ours from CBS. It its exit from a doctor that says it is a very important question. To ask if I haven't oppressors suicidal patient I always ask if they have access. Good gun and I get that. Mom but I don't know if they're gonna tell you because I did an informal survey as I was walking around. And I couldn't find anybody that is never lied to a doctor. The ending could be legacy before the break something as simple as a uniting their cookies right now who don't know and salute Lena. Gave up drank and you betcha. Not know Lance you know whenever I told you last time. Another Texans and you're done little to be under don't know do you drink no. At Lanier relations no drugs no question my generally under an old old joke united not read the text force aren't. Larry in OKC has been white and talk about Donald Trump and immediately Larry. Pretty good it was a. Are gone. What I think that that would happen immediately and I mean he hasn't been disrupted that my ability to prevent it before. You can do what. I mean he always blame the media put something when they are involved in the media. I think it's like a chicken inane question and I think it's a good one and is worthy of discussion. And that is. And I'm text and a couple of people back today that say you need to stop talking about trump and I text that while he needs stop saying in some dumb things or are. Things. Really aren't true and obviously dumping. You reached an eagle and some medium and I did Whitney. You know. Well written and neglect are there are talking about our guns people in the ground there yet. My daughter and storm bowl fought in Afghanistan. And our. Beat people always welcome but couldn't be caged. Pit are the people who walk in Q. Eileen you know I always looked at it this way unless you're willing. To put on a uniform and go over there and fight for it. And I I don't know how you can be for some to an end and just and some money to their death nor. Or whatever you understand understand that's what the army does but I just think. That even though you're not capable loving you're too old or maybe you're disabled. Or what ever. To actually put on the uniform but I think you would have to be willing to die board if you can make somebody else. You know you know market when outdoor. It would Slorc you know the call or what you order your car prop. So he wouldn't neglect argue that it won't then there's Greg are you know. The wearing blue route what mark country in noticed. But once you get their music which Smart and so it is written written in actual problem. You know they talk about well argued to a Melbourne record due to arm or should put Saddam in Ohio United States. You know me doing these people might reach a peaceful. He's not only you can not going to change your cultural. And let's make important and what's gonna happen FD league. Got to thank you will be back Tug O boots on the ground in Syria Tommy Tucker debit WL.