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9-20 Tommy, do you catch more terrorists with honey or vinegar?

Sep 20, 2016|

Tommy talks to Karen Greenberg, Director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law, about the latest terror attacks in the United States.

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Now Tommy talker WWL. I am not common dot com. Good morning my friend. Yes dominate welcome into another day of broadcasting thank you David presume you'll continue to watch its story. Yes I'm well and all have more coming up as interesting about those dogs in the separation anxiety ahead severe separation anxiety. When I was acutely kindergarten and first grade and so forth did you really so much so in his true story that actually ran away from school in the first grade I was just in there remember I am a little blue and black school bag. And wanted to go home the I just wanna go home the teacher was I guess I missed my mother I don't know which is not too she hated me. Presenters who there's a necessary she and a we've seen out of feature oh no she didn't AD but I did an and I just picked up school bay awaited from my time and left. And and disseminate greater after me and a bicycle can get me. And I gotta wonder about this though our college freshman awaited school in the news cinema no wait wait Don Imus and missed that art value added I was college outlawed in late Dolly yet I was home sounds and college freshmen now that I'm from anxiety and you know by the time we need to boot no pants you don't need the outlawed dog to add to the confusion I don't think so. A million ought to offset that with my daughter remembering kindergarten first period I would select you know be right here at the end of Dave taking up. And we'll be right at home waiting for human you know so. Just try to offset that if him missing yeah she got the dog and one of way to school lunch do you with the dogs to blow again but that's not what I'm talking about right heel weight that conference I. I just tried to correlate those dog tears up my leagues. Yeah if people would emulate in some kind of free it's like an avenue lay examine. I'm playing Tug of war with the dawn and it's a box and she'd just push in and scratch and then they look at me like in some kind of drunk like Nicky fallen down as the Marlboro county go to doctor went nearly exhibited suspicion. Anyway. We're to talk about the terror attacks in the United States and interesting tweet by Donald Trump junior. Near about this I certainly did and I'm still trying to figure out tweeted out a picture global scandals innings and Atlanta bowl scandals and I told you Jews three would kill you would you take a handful. That is our Syrian refugee problem. And the people that makes it'll skills which he's greatly by the way. And I agree in I'm real mountain. Didn't see the Davis and they didn't see this similarities between the brightly colored and Indian refugees were to talk about that today. And the we've had some time to digest this whole thing. I wonder if it didn't happen if they'd be as crazy as this sounds. If this guy didn't become radicalized because they want lane Seles chicken 24 hours a day I know that sounds crazy on the surface they got under a big cards right along asks so and I just wonder about that it I don't know I mean you can't let people sell chicken whenever they want let's face. In arms and wonder chickens are outlawed only outlaws will have chickens and I've been saying that for years and years. State a break come back we'll talk about Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton's approach. So I guess it ended the problem of domestic terrorism Donald Trump says it's. It's a matter of police. Profiling and Hillary Clinton's announced mormons and intelligence. Effort. Karen Greenberg joins us right now director of the center on national security at Fordham on good morning professor. Why isn't doctor Greenberg. Are again as I just like to give you credit tell me com if you will like yes. Do where do we stand now and what do we know on the the new York city New Jersey bombings. And well I think we do a little bit more than we knew yesterday. We know that they have in custody. Depressed and he thinks he can is associated with did you actually the end and need Vijay keep pounding. And we know it can at least it's been reported that he travels and several times over the past few years. To pass can't stand more like because Pakistan's. Then he had become married that we care they don't know if you put it this morning with and not his wife ever came to this country. That we don't know anything about waited there were more people involved in this contest this individual. So that's probably do know is that law enforcement where. Quite rapidly. And I followed the evidence. And arrested at Princeton so that's actually I think one of the big takeaways that's the story. Doctor wanting ID B nine. I always look back at this when something like this happens look back and say well how could it'd have been prevented them think in a while ago went to Afghanistan spent a year there. But he was from Afghanistan so I mean you can easily. Make it Cason and say there's not a not a bug gone back to your native country and visiting family for years there. No I don't think I think. You know I think that put the burden on the law enforcement yes I'm sure debt from the point of view law enforcement intelligence community. He should've been a person of interest. But I also think we have to look at the fact that. He was not able to do this in me if populated area. Debt Millen was killed by this that law enforcement has narrowed the EU meeting in which these horrendous acts can take place. And now they have one step to do which is to how to think about crude it traveled back and forth needs to be. Solid and lie and so it's revolving. It's evolving challenges I think for law enforcement but yes I'm sure they're doing exactly what you said which is. What you we've seen as a as a warning signs at a weekend stiff the next time around. And then if you look dead I guess compared to the the the bomb that was left in Times Square guess in a police car I remember correctly going to be in DC at the time but. That was what seven years ago vote. And yes yes there is series. Actionable. Terrorist attempts in 2009. And 2000 intent. Columbia circuit comparing it talking about Kia by the inside in time cleaning time thinking that a yes. So we do it this guy kind of put a bomb in an Alley ditty non. Yeah well it was a yeah it it was a piece of part of New York child seat that once. That is far away from the more populated tentatively election not like Times Square and that respect. Nor is it like the individual they invested years ago. Ku won TUR Pennsylvania pac region. Who wanted to. Ten. A bomb in the near city subway at one of the more credible threats we've seen since the non. And I guess it did makes him wonder about training if if he did receive training because they tell me that. If you if you wanna make a bomb like this then and I don't thing I'm saying anything out of school with did those that would be inclined to do so don't already know but. That the materials are available any information is all over the Internet. That's what they say but it to but as you could beat but what you content within itself the very hard to do. Is it it yet and that it defected this on did not kill anyone debt. Probably has to do with the fact that yes he had the materials that actually assembling in doing being carried out. Turn out to be very difficult affairs at least with the underwear bomber. On Christmas Day in 2009. Who was in the plane and wanted to blow up that plane and hard to detonate that doesn't mean and it's not. Possible but but I again as the space it's now that's for doing these things could get more and more difficult to. Canada now having said that. At one of the things that law enforcement will pay a lot of attention to do is weird it's weird because the pressure cooker just how. How you can attain a pressure cooker which can be a common item. I'm and it shouldn't be such a common. Because it was also used in Boston Marathon bombing. And so they. And and your point about trading is absolutely essential to. How to think about this because. Didn't have to find out that this person once. Trained to be on the Internet and not to and that can make a difference between just can't successful. And dangerous the terrorist attack is an. Talking to doctor Karen Greenberg director of the senate. On national security at Fordham law professor. Tom when it comes to. Donald Trump junior tweeted out a picture of a ball skills I think it is incentives. It until you three of these Wii to you would you take a handful. And I asked that in terms of the day that's implying that this had something to do with the Syrian refugee which it does not at all doesn't. Have nothing to do it too late refugees Harry and our other lives. I think you know political candidates content in particular tie caddy used this of the two. To underscore who they will be as president of and he's made it clear that he doesn't just such as. We refugees he definitely has to immigrants. And so I think set that that that could have expected. Now I think dead dead to challenge what 80%. Deep. I is related prosecutions in the United States had taken place over the past two years. And that. Over and over a hundred maybe 110 of them. On 8% of them American citizen and many of those are not naturalized citizens they were born here. And and many of them are converts to the Islamic religion not necessary. Born Muslim. So that tells you that we dealing with something gets. Because it and that. Debt and just being able to say this isn't sure about. You know it did do that the Islamic religion this is an issue about individuals who who. Decide to go again violent past. And that we need to be able to take about an evolving. And cute. To label it one way when the wind be content to let you keep offering it actually not in in favor of setting national. And looking at it did from the other side there are also politics involved in terms of vices taken credit for something that they may or may not have inspired ranked. Correct and that's very easy to do to one's view you know lay out the lay out the fat content that's litigated and immediately after the stabbings in Minnesota. And and athletic and it adds to the prior terrorist attacks. Around this country so on the can't San Bernardino island Texas for at some point in the process been waiting and has the part of terror plot. I I am ready to give that credence cannot that's really. I would say there's no there there it's not because the facts but is it too. That I consistent data that message to the world which is. If you wanna commit violence you can do so in my name. If you were upset about the following listed laundry list. Of grievances do sell and I need and so. To cause that to acting something is is really changing the definition of the word. Director. As opposed to kind of terrorist attacks that the black about by al-Qaeda. But in the preakness this year which were many of which were directed from the tribe into specifics and details we. Choosing individuals to catch up yes. Since I need to make this marketing but it kinda is because insult licenses about his branding themselves is. Terror incorporated. In. You know we're gonna can ditch you're gonna find you wherever we are gonna convert the world and our image and likeness. And Lance Soledad because I understand my every time there's terror attack if I'm ices on jumping all over and I'm claiming responsibility for I don't think that. Well written but as I do yeah. I mean that they do you like they do with this I. Whenever one of our rice's and my idea was to spread the brand of terrorists like any time anything happens yet we did it. Well that pretty much had this case became TJ is the fact that the individual. Who perpetrated the attack seeking custody and or the other incidence is. In this country the perpetrators. Had been killed. And so it made matters debt that somebody that did deny ability to essentially a potentially this story will come out. And so that could be one of the reasons for attending temple of different instantly as they have. Without that line. Thank you don't appreciate your time. Hopefully coming conduct Karen Greenberg director of the center on. National security. At Fordham on she sits on and they got my attention about. Maybe it shouldn't be so easy to buy pressure cookers. Now. It's in me. That's approaching it from the wrong angle because then what you do on is okay ices soared terror groups have already taken away god knows how much of our time and money. At the airports. Night assert affecting what we cook with in the kitchen. So would seem like news talk about slowly eroding our freedoms all of a sudden I immediately get. Pressure cookers because. Miscreants use in the make bombs and I think that's owed. Ass backward way to go about this Tony you're Charles think we come back into six though. 187 so that is some meatless and Donald Trump. And I'm like in the New York Daily News here. He called for profiling in some people learned via tanks are drawing a distinction between that and racial. Profiling. Yeah I don't know. How you can do that. 'cause we're too when Guantanamo profiling. People letter. Why are we know he's a Middle Eastern. I'm sane I securities upper hand island but what exactly is our local police say no a lot of these people are. They are afraid to do anything because they don't wanna be accused of profiling and don't they don't want to be accused of ball. Sorts of things we don't want to do any profiling of someone who looks like he has massive bomb on his back we won't go up to that person and Sam sorry. The disease if he looks like he comes from that part of the world were not allowed to profile gimme a break so. He may not have used the word racial profile blood. I don't know how she can interpret if you look if he looks like he comes from that part of the world. So. You can. You can take detonate if you want her Parse words but. Then the next paragraph from the New York Daily News. Says. Throughout his campaign a GOP nominee has pushed for using racial profiling so while. For those of you texting you're saying he didn't say racial profiling. You might not use the word but I don't know how she can explain. Because if he looks like he comes from that part of the world now. Edgy should be a Middle Eastern product Tex comes in with eighteen exclamation points profiling is not racial. And I think. It's interesting that you're you're so not you but the people are texting this and are so pro trump you'd you'd just completely. Blinded by this and what does it matter if you don't think he's racial profiling nannies not I mean but. I don't house and describe it is what are you looking for. The outlook and for blond haired blue eyed women although there was it was a terrorist paddy whatever Pennsylvania Patti enamel on. The deadline here and there senator wanna wanna hear from you at T 60187. Is that he trusts to keep the country safer. And I think it comes down to. Very very. Hard in terms of profiling and Hillary Clinton wants to do it more from an intelligence standpoint. And do you keep your enemies friends close and your enemies even closer. Or do you go in and break some heads in and find out who's doing who and Dennis I'm trying to say I think that's the basic approach Hillary Clinton is saying in. I Willits worked the sources in the neighborhood let's try to stay close and we don't want to alienate any peoples so we own it treat people as a group Donald Trump is saying. No I don't alienate people leave their however. There are the fact that. These this again was carried out by somebody from the app pac region. World and we do need to profiles those people and again that there's there's difference maybe between. If you say statistically. Speaking that takes out of profiling prejudice part of an on and on difficulties excel winning seventy. Don't text me with eighteen exclamation points pick up the point of phoning any call let me quote from the New York Times a year. Are right there. Half the audience and not New York Times. At some point you know unless you're there you gotta believe something and ranked mom Donald Trump. First of Hillary Clinton called trouble recruiting sergeant for the terrorists. Right now Donald Trump. So is calling for vigorous police profiling of people from the Muslim world. Any drew direct equation between immigration controls and national defense. This had nothing to do with immigration because again it was a naturalized citizen he's been a year and Afghanistan but that's where his family was from. So I don't know how you could have foretold. That he was being radicalized over there and I'm still not sure that is not all about it being full of fried chicken. Ryan. And a sound good morning and other WL. And Brian will put you on hold go to Thomas in Metairie hey Thomas. I ago. They're about this profile. Do you think one in. Fair skinned red headed our sprint project. Plane crash it into one of the holiest temple in the Middle East are the correction in the wall and actor. And then at that point oh. Did attack against. The citizens of the middle relief that it affected. Actually. You don't think that it facing their skin redness are walking in the street they would profile. Or would you eat they would. Turn it on a day. You summit the Muslims. Unless people in the middle. Parties about you think that turned a blind side for ala. It's because that guy it's fair skinned redhead and art were too which hit profile it would it'll look it's somebody else we or would you deal with it. If you hit it forward and identify your enemies so it is not right when do we screwed. Either didn't saying they want to live thing you mine and who's gonna hang out but hoping dancing and it's you wanna. You want us to conduct ourselves like some of the radical countries in them at least I hope that's now what you're saying Mike in man to go higher under the W good morning. You. And make appointment is caught trying to rated as well. I was gonna ask how why forty year old female Baptist. Have planted pipe bombs are created care. I'm glad you're right. I. Missed. It. The pro off that epic art that just early. You. Direct you know. And been racially profile and it is the certain religion. But certain age certain location a person. Profile. In the tractor over the course of time. The same person to be. A really. We are. Out. There it's mostly the Middle Eastern you said that Jerry. Sometimes people ours somehow people are presuming that I'm against would Donald Trump said. And coming up against somebody picking words between profiling and racial profiling I mean let's face singular of people that look like if from the Middle East. You are now. Yet. But because if from the middle he could be but not because their from the Middle East but because. That soon. Commits the those crimes in the attacks. And Minnesota where was a guy from. Somali who was black. Text comes in how is it different. To profile Muslims than it is to profile police officers who seemed to have a predisposition. To shooting black men who had their hands in the year. An avenue in Oklahoma. Now the trucks as if red Ford. If red Ford pickup trucks have had a habit. A burning loyalty you'll only check other color Ford pick up trucks he you don't profile. If it walks quacks and looks like a duck that you butted in Turkey it's a duck. As a problem with the immigration department they've. Accidentally granted citizenship to at least 858. Immigrants from countries of concern to national security. Or with high rates of immigration fraud against the use the wrong rubber stamp instead of deportation. It states citizenship will be back Tommy Tucker WWL.