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As a fan, is the NFL better or worse than it was ten years ago when Goodell took over as Commissioner?

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Welcome back to double coverage here on WBL stadium after him and dot com one hour down two to go here ladder bloom studios. I Ain T about later Chris eager to box where he is done for the night however bit of a trial date occurred yesterday so. We will like KG take off Libby get a map for him to wake it appropriate to Marty to have Andy Reid is and instantly. I should Demi needs him hanging out do you over the next couple hours of one do this hour we're gonna finish talking saints of the next six or seven minutes Tenet. Closed the book on that they were gonna move on we're hitting it in our discussion concerning Roger did tell him. This ties in directly with their WW other account ready jag wire opinion poll which is as a fan. Do you believe to the NFL to be better now than it was in. Years ago Campbell tried to answer that question is the lead to better off now. Then it was a decade ago. Even though dean of the day the answer to that question probably is a matter of perspective so we'll try to explore. All the different prospective belts get to sit down with Brad Daniel on disease. Bleacher report's one bridge report's lead NFL writers he has an excellent article on Roger Goodell and its first in years. As the commissioner on Bleacher Report right now but I would recommend anybody. Go check it out and well. Legislative Brad has a very Smart perspectives both positive and negative on want to Dell has done for this sleeve to explore all of that. This hour we invite you continue to get involved. You can taxi Tiffany Tiffany call 5042601870. Speaking of detects I'm shout out to the big Kahuna. I don't know who that is somebody Texan though it says that. Back embodied these time their dad was the radio person honors objected as a Ang Lee's broad and ten as well you know who else is paying at least today. And world six big time practiced fully bad against pages objectively speaking the word on the street from both media corps. The New Orleans and new England's. Is that the saints won today. Drew Brees was magnificent. And the second despite the fact the game it's one Keenan Lewis Al del hombre now competing in T bills the second there. Did really well the trio of PGA Williams. Came crawl into bunting here's continues to play well. And branding cooks all besieged number one receiver. You could distill only 22 years old Tim I don't think realizes he's going into his third year in the league at 22 years old he already has. Is it to 1000 yard seasons or won 1000 yard season under his belt. I know his first you had a couple injuries reminded not eclipsed the millennium mark but either way raincoats. Going against Malcom Butler. He's now considered one of the best quarterbacks in the entire league at 26 years old that was one of the key matchup and the reports are to be believed. Branding coats won that matchup handle some other things speaks out about. Michael Thomas continues. To play well continues to earn the trust of all the quarterbacks on this roster and most importantly. Continues to be go to guy. In critical situations or Brett despite the fact. He's just you know this is a couple weeks and to his first a century given that you may have heard about this but this is probably the best single highlight to come out of the date Timmy. There was 866. For the same speed and safety been scored a touchdown. Was it PJ woods as he can crawl was it about it was a jurist bird it was none of these it was my man shelled in big stake in rank games. Who I don't know there's video of the take six image you stumble across any I am not. Thus far. But apparently Joseph the reagans reading a screen pass perfectly managed to. Pick six Tom Brady cat was. Punitive levels down and after practice and that he realized that the time that it was even Brady. Add quarterbacks at something that while the grid of the world as a whole will never care about that. At some of your shield brigade and school man that's one of those memories they'll cut a deal when your back pocket and you'll be tallying. You know your kids a year grandkids about it one day when they've heard all your other stories 121000 times. So a good day for the saints now is for is cause for concern. In my opinion I go back to those guys that missed practice today John Jenkins sent out would she. Look without some of those other defensive lineman or blame right now I actually don't know how much damage that is right you more worried it has to do it Amy and swine McKean in Lewis. These two continue to miss time number. Keenan Lewis came back for one team one day. And then has set out cents. And when he says that first day they Jose codes a scheduled day off well. This many days off to practicing Wendy doesn't really feel. Like a scheduled day off so what exactly is going on with Kimi Lou and she's Keenan Lewis in the Indy means one had all these injuries concerns coming into the year with concussions in such what has been keeping him. Out of practice in. Debts if there is a position group and have a ton of question marks about I've talked about it that link. It is the cornerback group it's kind of question marks top to bottom. And we just don't know about why this will continue to monitor. That situation. Let's go to Mike in Marie errors and patiently holding Mike what's up. Do well mandates all of which yeah. Library to record currently this year they. Ala cart yet. I do that again in and make. We Italy in the building and train people. In the unit and a come back in May it was in the could be playing right now. And you know. Harper and it will go low here you know look I'm an impact occurred around. Like. Little. And now one question Adam. Also mentioned earlier in the. RJR. Receiver correct yeah. So Hakeem Nicks got cut so what that tells me. Is will it all that tells me is that he he's doing well enough and who else is that kind of group drifted wide receiver him. Brandy to win. On. Tommy Lee Lewis is kind of in that crew is well Dangerfield in there what that tells me that he's at least doing better to edge out some guys. But not being at camp Mike I don't know I can give you a fully. Educated opinion one way or another on RG airs just. He's done well up until his round and like you said there was a lot of excitement about him coming out of routier's so. Whoa did. I look for mean Thursday night's. Pre season game now. To go back of your comments on debt that being cute he. The nail on the head. Especially when you pensive side of the ball. One of the this defense last year was not just they lack of starting talent but it was that when one guy wind down. The wheels came right I mean that's there was a really kind of odd core relation between if denial Ellerbe was in the line at the saints won and they did it. Didn't it seems a loss if you wasn't in the saints lost. And obviously it's not like Harden pastoral it's now 121 but that was in line backing core. That was. The account of which the level of play was significantly decreased through one injury. When you look at the defensive line and last year all the young guys that you had. Injuries treated significantly hurt you gears well think about the second year you had you'd be guy in brain and brown are on the field. Constantly despite the fact that he is in net negative. For your team because you did and the debt he did have the back and so. Throughout this offseason. Recession year of spinning your draft to resources on the defense. Through signing some key older guys and you rate rising sophomore class that shows a lot of potential. The saints have. Respectable. Now. They had more than they have last year like if nothing else even if we can't judge it. In terms to how it stacks up against some other teams they prevail more they had last year and like the rest of this team as a whole. And is representative Mike of the team that isn't to be in a positive. Directions excellent call to Mike Cameron the nail on the head. He seems increased depth on the defensive side of the ball is impressive thus far and it will be key. If they're going to be much improved they're going to make themselves into the middle of the pack defense like well. There who dat nation hopes they can be so Ed you're practice round bottom line. Today it was a good day for those things they can go oh watches film take confidence from this film by. It what have you done for me lately league the candidate they got to go back out tomorrow and they got a stack days. They got to put two good days and pages in the got to go on the got a pretty good pre season game on the patriot. Them for they can do that. The more excited. Fans Moore said the media game and the more confident the players. Or hits it solid Davis saints. Keep your expectations in check but. This. He's just paste equally to the live. Or the diversity of conversation. What we get back. You talk a little Roger O'Dell what he's meant to the NFL as a whole over the past eight years and they're devoted public on voter project our opinion poll as a fan. Is the league better than it was ten years ago to. Double coverage on WB LE a maximum dot com. You know what's going on yelled welcome back to double coverage here on them to be LA met him and I come out to dive into the Roger Goodell congress station before you do. Give our man ten and ocean springs changed and what's up brother it's going on. Good so all those undermine. Well yeah I'll listen you'd get it today I am are you married several chart to tell you truth. I so I think they were all struggling a bit that's like Christian took off a couple hours early night apparently they gonna get in till like 2 AM. And then they woke up early for practice and rolled straight in the shows that would make it abated since very perceptive but you can. Well by army several like this I did that today. Yeah and I'm from from what they thought they intercepted by. Tom Brady or three times. Maybe. Bomb I know that it's I know they grew drop below through one and the Brady threw the pick six to shelled and Reagan's. I don't wanna give you wrong information. Kim so I'll just keep it that that Brady there at least one go Rob Lowe threw at least one. But yes overall it was a win for the saints and I think Chris who was talking about but my father had a Syrian. He was like. He he. I was canister brokers said whereas the old man said you know about a mile and could be he'd expect him to look this good so why did this is. He's a date for excitement now they just have to see if they go out and do it again tomorrow. When the patriots will be out for beautiful vintage. Yeah and in a war are our great. But I do also want them since you brought about about Roger give bear about to leave you there are outdoor space via. And I was gonna ask you so true. Is it true that over the next couple years to fail interchange and doing away with a sickle. I can't say one way or another kin those conversations always take place you know did that changes they could be made the game. How much momentum it has IE I don't know I'm I'm not sure others are even some changes though when you look at the fact that a touchback we'll now go to the 25. Where you're going to see is more teams adopting that kind of coffin corner kick off. Where incident going to touch back you just try to pin teams to you actually might seem more returns this season. Did that was something that they were entertaining. But not this year but for next year to where it would kick off. So what are concerned about football is there and look we all stay here. Football is a very dangerous and you know sport and it and it real it really really you know but in the same time. It's it's all that aspect of it that make sense. You know sort of exciting and everything else and I'm just concerned that we order. The sport bail. It out. And and can say I hate to cut you off Rambo we are coming up in the CBS news update but it BQ raise. A very good point now. Where you maybe feel for gay del and the rule makers. In this regard is the fact that. You're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place like you said the the islands of the game the intensity of the game the horrid hitting nature of the game. I mean let's be honest it's one of the main reasons why it appeals to so much of this. But when you hold that up against the Euro players' safety in trying to keep players' safety Buchanan. Trying to avoid players dying earlier and long term health problems. How exactly do you walk that tight group that with the NFL is still trying to figure out bats. What the NFL will continue to figure out over the next decade. So what do you think we've got a lot of good thought commit a Timmy Timmy bottle for 2601870. As of faith and how do you feel about the last ten years. With Roger Goodell has commission Xena felt better. Or worse and I specifically say as a fan because. In the end this is a question. Of perspective. If you are the owners use most likely love Roger Goodell if you are the players. You obviously do not right I mean you're the owners Roger Goodell has well. He's done his job. They the owners on the players heavy damage in the old CBA. Adele got the owners the advantage in this new one the league is making more money than never. And there are. Active WWL and double covered sports and more. Did jump in with Christian guarantee bubbly bear. Call 504260187. Be taxed 87870. Or tweet he above 53 your Kristian garic one. Welcome back to double coverage here on WWL AM after him and dot com I'm Tebow behavior and right now it is my pleasure to be joined by Brad again you all act bread underscored gain on the GAG in a win. On Twitter NFL. National political columnist for Bleacher Report dot com Brad it's going arm and they do so much for taking time out joining us tonight. Doing quite well my friend and I really love the article on Bleacher Report that you had two days very enjoyable kind of looking that Roger Goodell from the players perspective but also. Really trying to take a holistic view. Of Roger Goodell on tonight on the show were kinda asking is. Is the NFL better off now that it was ten years ago but after reading your article Brad. Is this even the correct question to be ASCII. And the question and it did it a lot more complicated bank. And we have been better now than electing your guard because there's so we decorate the measured you know better or worse Sunday. Financially better off in terms that we allow public perception that probably the worst stock drop in terms of the product on the globe. They have popped up and not depend on me are we a personal preference wouldn't let them viewers and the consumer league game I think a lot of people. That I blew but yeah I a lot of Arab collision probably argue that each. And the nature of the team has been sort of stripped Libby not sure violence needs naturally got in this regard for the rules change and pat unique. He you know and indirect response with a concussion in the TP controversy and Roger Goodell was little objection the without accurate you know luckily we discussed in the article. The folks you know you have been to prep all broke for example people who interpret the panache suspect big ink. We're glad batter machine quarterback Kerry records is partially received a production number running back break record drop until there's growing at a point he gained expanding TV ratings are up and back. Andrew well I don't know where I enter without that Lebanese your style. Congress in many many different layer that so many many different ways to look at the movie apart become more luck except for a lot and you're. Then in terms of the responsibility. But it would Roger Goodell in charge wreck I think it's pretty clear they had the better because of course we need. How could make ERT much money as possible to meet with Rupert ink you Bible popped one right now won't we couldn't spokesman but the plan. And bread you mentioned to you mentioned the monetary improvement you also mention the fact it may be public perception. Is a bid down on the lead as a whole Chris Kluwe in the article raises you know the idea that correlation doesn't always equal. Causation that works spoke with the money and with the bad perception like. How much of the credit and or Blaine does Cadel you know shoulder for the money Deirdre before may be increased perception and how much do is just kind of I'd be natural growth and evolution of this sport as more and more people become enthralled. About the unknown here and it will never really know for sure they actually helped me really lucky commissioner. Ten years ago yes survey. Oliver Renner Paula Patton didn't straighten dropped a suburb where you're you're letting mr. commissioner right now that the league would be a nuclear good luck we bring them more lucrative than disconnect. All but the fact what I grounds are substantially. In terms like revenue equally. It is pitched published airstrip to get better and more good than harm in that specific area. I'll bet we don't Null and and a lot of the player he said he will be off the Alex. (%expletive) that we take it as he and the early McGee and especially the potential but the the grassroots level two and having a parent. Germs are encouraged for the kid in litigation. Are reluctant being showered on it may need to cut the percussion part that the controversy broke we probably that we respond to enact controversy rebel pension covering up a lot of beach. Let me know about an hour or trying to released. And Serb Drew Lachey a lot of lead the church I putted very important issue I think that's probably turned a lot of people often digging up all. And I think a very long term. I am could really take action and Robin out there right now Roger and I Luxembourg he's probably helping league. It's hard to imagine there have even gone even higher with anybody yell. You wonder he's actually hurting them in a very long term in 203030. Years from now one group didn't make it into the peace. I'm Bernard Clinton clearly are the. Or you're right allow only what we know she tread. Mile line of one bait for all becoming growing the way about seeing her strafing and her stripping out but in any different aren't terms changed and I. I library in Beirut. Important compare Ferrer forward. You know be upheld because it love at one point the training spread in India I would say in North America and it became violent people and and be good a job because you're arguing just bought big ticket less violent than it RD and and it abruptly cut behind archer and the political sport North America where. Let's talk a bit of adjustment because how we did you do that the little more flexibility can execute like striking one another in the Brad it urban Allegheny international peace between chickened out of that would continue to up and you wonder. It probably would become a Charlotte warmer drop in terms but not sure and include violence that we out of that. Work it will continue to burn area of concern to try to strip out line to become a pilot heard increasingly cautious culture. A pure pure people find your kid brought the meeting will become beat the product look and you'll become bogged down and struck that the big concern now prerogative I'll be an hour. And so far beyond the initial response from rig the Pickens will be glad I got lucky with the long term future of the game and you've got potential revenue growth. We're talking to brag and you all act Brad guinier on Twitter. Brad underscore Kenya onto an international and talk Omniture Bleacher Report dot com. And bread one thing that's release highlighted in the article. Is that regardless of what you think about Goodell on a personal level and even some of the players are positive things to say about a dollar Saint Mary's is doing his job. There does seem to be a very strained relationship. Between his office and between. The NFL PA eight strained relationship that may be didn't always exist with his predecessor Paul Tagliabue. Is where is the NFL. Are they your risk of putting Leah another strike gore or are they opening themselves up for further problems down the line the more strained that this relationship becomes. Well I think what happened in 2011 what eight correction from the 1983 collective bargaining agreement between. In reading the particular opinion heavily weighted toward the players in terms of the revenue split and a few other factors and and and I think it's been working not very aggressively in 2011 of course there was a lock element. And be one big advantage or a tablet with the players look at actually look for problem Indiana's Eric. But the shock right and for all they probably could laboratory computer went through years. And intra at a regular quarterback garnered only ten or twelve of fourteen years old trial. I'm really don't have leverage in terms strike because they could be sacrificing. Large chunks of their careers not their entire career in the kitchen watching the rest of them became. So wish them the name. And blue corner and turn to collective bargaining and sharp. Trumping a lot of the players really cure but the worst sort of pro. Connor and cry don't call in 2011. Now have a liberal the impeachment of the word you know you can oven and transport entered collected argue that agreement Scarlett. Can Robert Chandler to the player completely they're taken in Asia right hand and and the thirty feet struck. You know would that enter our about a recent he didn't even Bradley. You need to re weaker without the rockets are followed Roger Goodell associating with wired you people are allowed entry into Iraq War and we opened an intriguing talk. We're here. Are we on camera saying you're dragging out. You know the track that we're not sure there's going up and keep it in the locker room training camp but evidently got in there because he's received such a careful look at problems try. I'm you render it right warning Lonnie let me explain why you're from and a lot of young guy that you're emotionally burn brightly Allen almost complete and 2011. I'll are going to be I can negotiate repayment 20/20 release should be. And now going to be going for rod playing well ready to be sure that we're ready that obviously and probably turned Oliver Brandon Marshall who are. A bit of a better Barbara bad earnings lineup around by then the people he'd be willing to strike in order to get. But try to figure would be twenty crown got a big potential that you can let it would really bad. Rather than make a lot of credit deliberately and there taken advantage are the front I I actually do some teams you've been in the arc. It seems regarding. Your revenue revenue sharing all those things were going to be up for grabs in 20/20 in the corner you're probably gonna come back out there and where aggressively because we're burning and an appointment at this point regarding what happened twenty allowed. If the trend there. And and you know it's pretty fascinating because so much of that negative sentiment I mean not not just the CBA where I think like like you put on the article a lot of players noticed. That can Dell doesn't really work for both sides. But so much as negative sentiment does stand from his role as. A disciplinarian and the fact that when you appeal his decision to goes directly back to him. Because of this league as you look at this decade in review. Do you think did this makes not that it did the NFL more open to except teen some sort of neutral arbitration down line. I think property and B group TBA a think rep that plan mentioned in the article the march may be an idea and Ethiopia had. I come around president you know there'd be talking in broad to the heart he'd be really good eight. The key from about that how Eric he will bankrupt the canary and decision making power and yet appeal power. This because can you got it looked at puberty. Herbert on so to speak immediate action must have jogger right now some other three however because either you or I would eat. On the bridge to include become the absurd executioner when he got introduced a new. Under par in 2007 has probably backfired on him. I'm not financially but it really respected back out again. I think you rewrite the change me change it to I would highly doubt that even in the year thirteen let alone in east media doesn't replace it 21 behind. If Roger Goodell ever over to another PO I I think that the fact that the or seven conduct policy written the play with him having the ability to hurt them all rendering any par any punishment he wanted based on on any kind of domestic. Violent terrorist sculptor he kind of nod for all I had trap and was ridiculous and the fact that he can oversee the US army got. Punishment it would bar Riddick where some power and propped up for the TV in 2011 can be. Part of the creek and ratified and the player you have agreed to widespread the talk about our written by and continue to be in place. You know ridiculous than an hour the situation where. You know right now I am not even a partisan think. Let Roger Goodell has too much power here and it's not only hurting the player it's hurting himself because equal I don't know you know the poor record of public opinion. Andrew urban a lot of these cases than Roger Goodell looks like Fallujah and a lot of them regardless of the topic where you're right you're good. Can gain suspension and then we can think absolutely doctor McKeon regardless of the Scott would. I did not return bounty gate suspension of the strange Clarin regardless of the fact it probably wouldn't know her record in tensions that are. Folks pretty much had prided rhetoric would keep on those in the general public all the players that Roger but how will the root of Rodney you left up a lot of the development. Wrapping up your bread Daniel pat Bradley in your own Twitter at. That it would underscore medal national NFL columnist from Bleacher Report dot com. And Brad said the the hall of fame game canceled on mass Sunday night. Bad turf second year in a row a lot of people kind of latched onto this the as you know look this is indicative of a league with a larger problems. As it stands now he's been added for ten years. Is good Dell's job in any sort of how water. I don't well I really don't think I think he's young he's serving their particular machine. The majority of them surprisingly you think when you're a drug multi billion Bowker billionaire owner you being distributed wind in the Iraqi injured June. Dean is many things are going in with the rockets and went intrigue and attribute a lot of them. You right to keep their investment protected as best as possible and right now again regardless of bad. The big week regarding you know whether it. Whether contribution and an hour or brother or curly and rather we are banking arm. Actually rocket to the Democrat Robert rock and you can not remember looking a lot of money would rocket about and Corey Brock Bradford plays and the comment. The concluding the red rock and not written record the other got 2011. I don't get going and you are thinking they're racing machine you're hired an attorney beacons are bound into the 28 and that's why they. Differently to that and you are spanked. You can serve I would Reverend Wright controversy you can survive the concussion controversy. That's why. He opened the can dig down not a bad that they grew up with he and 20/20 routing learned to write it continued knee problem that meeting 2011 because gruden a week from money to get rapid alert. It's not a real bad right now yeah I think there's there's there's probably look at them there. Bread and all that Brad underscored that you on toward the GA GA and GAG MO in the national liberal columnist Bleacher Report dot com Brett thank you so much. For joining us tonight man. Thanks man you have a great night my friend. Sit down we'll reach reportedly there's a lot of bragging all coming up next. We'll talk more about Roger Goodell we'll be ready for our number three. Show it Olympics to blow. Probably did to you this did okay division and third hours what was double coverage on WW Ellie about from the dot com. Welcome back to double coverage here on dividend GL AM affidavit dot com we're talking about Roger Goodell we just spoke with bragging on Bleacher Report dot com. Really good article. On Roger Goodell today and I agree with much of what he had to say which is basically got a look at your notre. You're pleased with what did Dallas done not only is the league making more money now remembers it now is more popular than ever but also. He has been in that light meat. Instead of the owners getting now. Getting in hot water being criticized getting in trouble for. Themes. That have taken place in the past decade in the NFL gave Dell has kind of shouldered. That that that bird for the job he's done his job a maverick met a pure player. Like we said you're much more upset you feel a bit taken advantage. There's evidence that. Early concussion recent raid saying let the side speak for itself yet tried to influence aside it's also. There is. The fact that Jude to read that really do Naimi and still judge jury and executioner. He has created a very easy target for the players to hate after all. Somebody hands you down decision. And then you appealed that decision and goes directly back to that person how else are you going to feel. About the situation you're going to feel a bit. Our so he's doing good by the owners not as good by the players one thing I'm interested to keep an ideal. Is whether or not this strained relationship that has developed between the NFL and PA in a Roger Goodell. How much trouble does that in depth Keating to delve into you could look at the end of the day. He does not to work. He does not work for the NFL PA he works via owners works for delete itself to. It kind of doesn't matter necessarily if he has the NFL PA spasms in part because that's not his job but. Does it create enough but the negative. Relationship where maybe the NFL PA pushes in pushes in pushes and tries. Too geeky dale pushed out. And iris. Also. Won't give your final poll results Tim joining get those WB a bye comes through an announcer next hour as far as. As a fan do you feel the league is better now than it was. In years ago. And guys different bond Alpharma on Twitter says I could be to commission Americans love football on the popularity dictates the growing coverage. Dead simple idea that they want to explore right. Core inflation does not always equal causation and as much credit as we did Roger Goodell. For growing the league financially for growing the league in popularity. Can we you know it's that really all attributable to him and in that same day. The criticism that we have for the NFL is that all attributed to detail. Where is just popular.