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20160723 8-9am The Outdoor Show

Jul 23, 2016|

Don presents Talkin' Guns.

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Alec didn't you force on the Kimball revolver. Economic stimulus I'm just came to meet DeVon when you get some time or Russia on this. But such is such a great job on these interviews with I'm likely to get your recorder. In Angola so like the clear view mall lakeside jobs. In just two economy and on the street developed about three or four questions. Pretty simple questions basic questions about our homes. And just stop and identify you self and SP they would minus a few questions for the and just see how much people know about five. Mean I think that would be extremely its view that there were. And almost scared if someone that well yes some of it would be scary sound might surprise you but I don't think it would be fair to do while you're in the store because you know. You've got an audience in other people familiar with. So I think that that wouldn't be fair to get a good cross section. Of the knowledge of file homes and you can mix up maybe some. Regulations and rules. And also some product information and it puts in question at that. And we can get it maybe get a six backing. And don't even come manages listen to nothing paean to America hundred hours. Unedited mall and over. Well they could be found there that's a show for another day we got other stuff to talk about. It's not that talked about this yesterday on the Friday show that I do. You know it's it's just blows my mind that people just don't yet they hate you when you stopped by police. We see it. Some of these cases these ones that go nationwide de escalate from what is basically yeah. But nines stop to where somebody ends up our. And then makes national no reason. Inspires and riles up other people take other actions in receipt police being targeted now. I just don't give it and I think gone a little bit of research on these people that are involved in the shootings. And from the citizens' standpoint most of these people it appears to me and noble work for a boss or if they have. It didn't work out too well because I think that's kind of the mentality you have to have would your approach by the police. Just imagine this is your boss at war. Human you know I team. You mean nothing much of him you may think he's shirt. But guess what he's your boss. And you job relies your income in here maybe you'll life depends. So I think to extend at least the same monikers that you would to your boss on job. You shortly old at the police currently at the other side of the two Eric Cassell from. Police association awards was there and you know this things that the police is responsible for doing when they approach you and not violate your rights and not be abusive with them but. I don't know I just don't get why these people behave the way they do particularly in the case of the Altman's bill in one right equals the home Baton Rouge. He is a man he's got some kind of a police record. Not real enemy weapons of felony well what it was a misdemeanor. But the one thing we do know is was he was breaking the law had a concealed weapon in his pocket about. That is committing a crime right. Then he resists the orders to put hands on the on the call our you resist teasing. Which didn't work and then they try to just taking down physically have to put cuffs on the fun out about quality does have a gun and he resists that that role and on the ground competence of shooting team. And in the nation goes crazy over these these rogue cops that it is trigger happy of races and killing people. But yet the story is we've got to. Criminal that's resisting arrest he's rolled around with a cop who knows the week before that another cop. Wasn't aggressive with the a suspect in the suspect pulled gone out of his waist shot in before it could do her guilty. Saw you know the police on a tough spot people put themselves in the issues. And then of course the media just you know they take what they want and they let people get excerpts of video you don't know the whole story is still investigation on the facts on there. And we got a guys at the White House that thinks he knows everything and start shooting his mouth often given his opinion. When he doesn't all acts even we've seen in case to case that the case could. Getting back to the original question in and in problem I have and understand mrs. Watch little people cool opera you're not gonna win. Against the police no matter one if you can whip through 48. Mega Wiki common. Until like pitches subdued and that it's not going to be happy in. So I don't know but we ended up heaven discussion about how you should behave and I hit caller after caller called up in refusing. You know just not giving that you know when you deal with the way either in a restaurant. You deal with a ticket taker at a ball game you check in into a motel. You're not the customer's always right even in a fast food drama you can say what you want and is it an act a little jerk is if you want to call it. But you don't do that would leave us much too serious of an event going on the plate with that. And they just won't. Believe that that's the way it should think that they have a right to audience questions and resistant resistant in hourly. You know how far does cop go before he realizes that his life maybe you think he's got to take action because they. They make mistakes too but only errors in judgment happened but it can be the fall the bull's eyes. An income and Gavin and know you're Vera from this you bring this up in in the classes and also brought up to Eric does anybody offer instruction. You know you think that parents would have a talk with the children. You know if you get stopped by the police here's the keys of the caught this is how well once you do you can call me you know but please cooperate with a but somebody is not talent people and I am wondering if they teach it in driver's Ed class if they go off the schools. In a talk about the relationship between the police and citizens and how he should treat the other. And outcrop is just confused so. What do you tell people gam ma to behave in a particularly will get in this later on. If you have a weapon with you evil why you walking on the street or you evidently. If you had that thing in the car with you begun. Sit still there has been a bunch of stuff over the years they they tell people put your hands on the wheel at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock. Turn the dome light on take your new driver's license to permit a present as soon as the cat walks up. Sit still nothing looks worse or more suspicious. Then walking up behind the call people in it and seen everybody moving around. Because you don't know what their dual what they're trying to iron you can see everything everybody's door people think that they can't beat you you can. Just sit still lame tell you. Or her in whatever case it is let them tell you why you being stopped. You know you're going eighty and 25 and deceive your license registration excerpts that are sit still there and alana when they finished just tell them straight off even Havoc on the car. LT where it is or in the case of anger and permit you have a duty to notify him. Tell him I have a hang on permit somewhere the gun is and ask whom would you like you do now. Be simple with it don't you know. I've seen YouTube videos of people who won't rule there windows down because the statute in Louisiana says he must show identification. It doesn't say hand it to the officer and they wanna be literal and it's it's. You know it it's gone I think part of that is we've spent. And on a long long time now convincing people and telling people that. Did the center of their own universe. Nobody is able to take anything you know you can do whatever you want on any repercussion. It's. I don't know enough and explain and I but I can tell you in law enforcement once you start talking to people. Everybody immediately becomes a constitutional law scholar immediately. Most of them have never read the constitution they can't even spell it they may have heard one they don't know the difference between that and the declaration of independence but. Now I can tell you would all their rights and they're always crawl. Well getting back to the point about you know just simple education because. We got to realize that everybody's got a day all mare or someone who cares enough bottom to tell on the problem in fact they might even encourage V in bullet. Resistant police I don't know sometimes they do. Yeah but Eric brought up a very good point very simple if you got a firearm in the vehicle. And you stopped the main thing to do is your hands what they consider him. Right on a steer and we will in plain view while you're telling them I have a firearm is located in the side pockets located in the glove compartment. It's under the seat tell them where it is because I think. And again. I'm speculate because we don't have all the facts yet but on the Minnesota shooting something was seriously wrong with that story about reaching to give his wallet shield. Because the woman is now kind of changed to store a little bit. In you can hear the cop on the 911 calls him I told him not to move hold all move there are some that are thinking he went for that gun. Either the short doing more higher goal whatever the case might be. But he made a bad move. And so I don't think you can fault. The police yeah I don't remember where I read it but I read that he I don't know how true is that he had the gun in his lap. And he started reaches for his ID and that was about this in the store alive. And I have no idea if it carries over to traffic stops. But. Something very interest and happens when people come in with firearms that are concealed. If that gun gets brought up into a conversation somehow. Nine out of ten times which is terrible and terrifying the first thing I would do is go grab it you know pull it out. And usually it ends up being and didn't point that you permitted. And then we have to politely because you know we're still run in the business explain. Why we're now. Leery of doing anything elsewhere in of this individual bit and it is an order of divide and in the very upset so it's. I don't know why that is I don't know if I'm sure that you know the rivers to earn a gun's been a lot of money on their holster in their gun and they're proud of it. But. And your hands. You know where you everybody can see him. And and don't think they gonna before that grew reach for don't pulling out a special. There's well yeah axles syndrome I and I think that now the names escape me because I brought up but. We would it would basically is as good guys in particular we we touch ago we see one like it's five. If we don't die that day don't they tell us when at the best that there was violence thing. We know exactly what we're doing we've never issued any idea an accident we can wave around because. Just because. You know it's not important we have a finger on the trigger you know appointed a people's heads. We just and then in people take offense at that. Well I think getting back to the instruction Florida I suggest it is to Eric that maybe. It is officers. Some volunteers from on NRA or other associations going into the schools. Get invited by principal asked them gonna come talk to you students. And it doesn't have to be a non north thirteen week course I mean one day in a classroom explaining the basic. Concepts of behavior when you stopped on a traffic stop. Are on the street could save somebody's life by doing that. And I think it's too easy thing not to do and I had told him I don't know what goes on the schools have been an awful long time I've been there. And it's been a long Thompson's my kids would. I don't know of any instruction from police office visits to schools of being done but it's not think the issue. Probably during the visit and that would be at Louisiana depends of built. Protective firearm education in schools and is it is you can probably tell it's pretty much gone nowhere. And a lot of that is going to be agencies fighting over who doesn't go private parties fighting over who doesn't like stuff. And it's kind of like sex education people are terrified that if he going to school and say guns and make everybody going crazy. You know material. Via. Well I got a text in the think this has come mirroring what she said Yemen is one says Don slow deliberate movements complied don't die that's from rob on the Bolshoi India that some very good advice. Are we to take a break we come back a bit more about open carried verses concealed carry because that has come in the news lately is it really feel good idea even though you have a right to carrier. On fire are on the open display. Is that a good idea to maybe Wear fatigues and sling and they are fifteen OB's shoulder while you're at a protest. Mean I don't know. We'll talk about it if you wanna calls is viable 146013. Fifty. Or you can text me like prompted an 8708. Seven's be right back with. We also have another number at 26013. Fifty we also have a text message ordered a 787 if you wanted to display in the program Gavin century DeVon urges are. Regulars here all talking guns once a month show that we do on Saturday mornings there with the chips and choose club in the Jeffs and come I'll let. And Gaza got a great text came in from 2830. Says. This conversation is great. When it mustering just one doctor conversation is great but you guessed. Should think about having this talk on a hip hop radio station most people listen to you all will Obey the commands of police officer wrong target audience for the good show I gotta agree with 2830 on that although. Sometimes I wonder about that Friday show what kind of a station that is them talking on their that do get the some of those people he's talking about. Gavin with regard to open carry verses conceal our first of all we talked about this before with the people that don't know. What is the law our rig walked regarding open cash in Louisiana. There really isn't one I hear people I'm talking about the open carry statute there isn't one. There is no law on the books in this state that says it's open it's it's okay to carry a gun openly in public. There's just no law on the books that forbids it and a couple of years ago it's always been left up to interpretation and nobody ever really worried about it but a couple of years ago. When they altered the wording in the constitution say that the there's the right to keep and bear arms X or service fundamental and it had to pass strict scrutiny. Here in Louisiana the Supreme Court here ruled that it does past that concealed carry permits the permitting process those that strict scrutiny. Because people have been doing it both ways since like seventeen mining I believe something like that so there's no one specific law. Think gives you permission to do it. Which is always. Err on the side of yet and open carry state which is nothing wrong with I don't think it's particularly good idea. Ever and I try to discourage people from doing it. There's a lot of things about it that they were mean half the time. It's people at a very untrained they buy and keep his gun they can keep the holes they can. There's no waiting and get that gun out of before about the holes are really quick. They don't know how to prevent some money from taken it from there is planning cases out there. Where you know guys walk around Wal-Mart with a gun somebody files into the bathroom beaten basically to the ground and takes it there was another kid I believe it was here. Who was carrying openly and somebody walked up to in the early exit at tonight's pistol. What is it and that's kind of what they want they want that interaction with people. He starts telling about the gunman got pulled out isn't it give it to mean took the pistol his phone his car everything you know you never really deterring crime much when news. When you do that it's kinda stupid. Rome. Yeah I'm not yeah not a Smart guy Don. I've never been I really don't you yourself enough you know well Don remember in my talent and I was gonna say more than isn't enormous morgue and spent. But wish sometimes. That. People could. You. Subjects. With the knowledge that you have like you know film should talk to people are fishermen ignored they were to talk about it then you wish you could give them some of that. To not only have a better conversation more than. But because with their doing or saying is hurting the sport in a hole or or something like that this is one of the few things that really. Really gets me about this fox they'd actually came in and they play in an interview at the directive from last week for two or three days straight. And it's the same thing we've been saying for. Instance and York in years ago if if you like at the deduction yourself a nice new gun and opened Kerry's not easily go as just. But let's say you go into a coffee shop and you got your open Kerry and it's perfectly legal and somebody comes in around that coffee Shia. Usually those criminals are very Smart not just gonna come and guns blaze and if they checked the place out a little bit who do you think is gonna get shot first. It's the guy that has begun. Why would you show your cards like. Yeah if if you says your. Torn tent is to keep in neighborhoods you know it's it's that's my main hangover. For the same reason you don't complied and traffic updates they. Think they have the right to do anything a big part of that I Eurotunnel as I would I would I'm showing people that guns are good. That's the same principle is pinning live cockroaches to yourself and trying to the woman that doesn't like roaches to show that they're actually harmless it doesn't. It doesn't go anywhere you know. Column I don't know usually it's offensive to to a lot of people. I leg and so is definitely wouldn't be doing this but I don't wanna go in the Starbucks sincere guy coming into blues shut table because. I don't most people in this town are nuts you know you know he's doing. The security has said before the security of it. Worries me haven't been taken from you and people vastly over read their abilities they all think they're gonna prevent prevent some big crime. And of a big example of that was. Oh I think it was about a year ago. There was shoot at the recruiting centers and you know these guys come out of every piece of tactical gear they got to protect the servicemen as if they needed any help. And wanna own the only person I guess I was one of them saw himself in the lake. Doesn't make the whole movement look good you know. There's guys that brought that they are two that protesters in mountain. In Baton Rouge that's not in and out of those I was at Dallas Dallas I'm sorry but. For a peaceful and lawful protest. You you know. Well but they wanna clearly they have the right to do it in if you notice. They do that because there are all rocking bad asses in Ireland and when the first shot went off every one of them ran camps away every one. And many a look at from the police is the the pork chops to go to war. That not only give an angry mob of people. That most of Romer arm now it's it's and that was that's a terrible situation of find yourself. Well you know the other thing I heard this brought up very good point that when you look at the shootings. The first person gets shot. Is going to be a security caller on off duty cop who's got a problem in plain view that's the one they take out first because they realized that's the one that's got to go. Ready they'd know about they don't know who else says ago. And I don't like anybody knowing what I have wanna not be the last meal you can right now to Rome on novatel. I think that's a big part of it is not knowing though where it's coming from. And as you can tell them who lives throughout this. The least amount of people and you have big or carrying it is is it your best option. You shouldn't announce to the world you know you just if you have the right to do it doesn't always mean you should do you have the right to get so drunk you bow down and you know what Japan's seven and I and it's not always doesn't mean it's a good idea to do the laws your analogies that it has adopted 766. Lot of your time to I've gone into place is not knowing. I afterward it's been a long day and I usually carry a gun at work and because of that environment in that environment only. Quite there yet open Jerry because I'm in my off season and the work that we sell guns. So for you did because you know. At the end of the day him. Half asleep and so walked into Taco Bell or something and it's. Question is somebody notices that they wanna know where your work and what kind of gun and is it takes up an incredible amount of time not only is it a bad idea as a negative thing done if you. You know if you're on any kind of schedule. And somebody sees you know begun when talking about it there when and where you work where do you get it I'm what was it. The do you teach the classes and nor can get the classes taught to me. You have range in your bags are there going to be differences did. It's a huge. You know you won't get taco logo before midnight token that everybody in there about that the guy that's that's enough. Hi guys we'll take a break we come back wanna talk it is that you Gavin about what impact if Andy this has had on the process of getting class and give me concealed carry permit. It's the state keep them up with a as far as renewals and getting new lives in DeVon will talk you about what impact although this heighten awareness and interest in carrying violence is known to loot the retail prices going up the availability there for both the file was. And the gamble and also can't wait to you report on the gun the more product the Campbell revolve all its they'll come on talk in guns on three W well. Thirteen fifty radio. Yes you've got questions about firearms regulations up permits carry products sign ammunition got a couple of professionals in the studio with us that we have. DeVon Burgess of the gypsum come Oliver Gavin sessions Jeff's shoes club and welcome. It take you calls and comments questions. Gavin you all one of the instructors for the cannot conceal carry permit. What has all this done it's forest the availability of getting the classes. Now also all the state police keeping up with the processing what is the wait period time involvement. Someone completes a class before they get that our men and also on renewals now they do. Who. Well I hope and I listened to on line well and then I don't have a lateral well they've they've played pretty much. They pretty much know where Leo as they please those. As far as getting a class it's it's increase costs out of business but probably about 20% which is it is it is a lot. It's a whole lot. Alms for the first time ever do that basic class on Wednesday reckoning sort of fire arms. We we had to turn people away it's so many and then never happens for that one column. We are lucky because we have a much you actually taken we have commercial rangers' second scheduled classes any day of the week. That there's been an issue as far as getting the permits back from the states. I would tell you right now no matter how you submit that thing to err on the side of longevity it's you might Nazis for six months went to an application. They are that back them up. Today I mean I'm just one person will will probably have 1819 people and that's assessment probably now days you we have million instructors in the state is probably. Eight or nine people that'll bring fifteen people of their own into place so you know they've gone from Ginn maybe 200 of these things a month that it point 200. And then Dow actually down a person at but he got a lot of stuff you know. Plus. Right now it sounds funny but we're at the end of July so when you turn this thing in. There's a good chance that you processing. Of this permit by the state is going to be an erupted by Thanksgiving and Christmas. Independent however in my article is mourning on going to be a couple of weeks where nothing gets done actually. And I don't know that cross your fingers and hope. Is there any way exit to accelerate the process it's something like. Maybe you guys could two real good LV heart screening of enemy you know whether the thing is going to be approved them not. And then with a lot of that already partially completed the ages kind of put tea approval final stamp on it and process it would that help that at all. If there was a time when I would say yes like go drop it off up there. But now they're getting so many that pretty much tells people what they do in 2013 which which it lessening Dubuque it's in the box with that these. And you know the d.s from November and we're working on it. What do ball renewals as same situation leak and you actually request you renewal early. How far in advance of the expiration can you get a renewed. I didn't say that I radio bandits or when they love this statement that was. Know they should send that letter about a 120 days out. Usually they recommend you do it about ninety days now. You know renew your permit is so you don't this year but then take six months yet know they've been process or Knowles in about. 6045 to sixty days. So you know. Of these slots on without a theory of Wimbledon when well everything that Renault everything is done you basically give them those certificates and your updated training in and paid him again and stuff like that. What would you see Justin and this is purely suggestion if someone gets caught. In between that as far as shouldn't carry the final concealed as they don't have current permit but that's it the paperwork is done. And they've got the old one that it's expired. Will know yes it was a became conceal weapon in the state and as you have a permit. If you're current term is expired. And they use having gotten. You're year renewal the reissue Beckett. By statute you know that's supposed to be carrying a gun. Until you get it now I did and remember this is not for me it is from the lawyer. He said that the permit had already been issued to him. He's that you know they dated revoke for any reason it's hidden it was on the state to get off the rear ends and cut him another car. It hasn't really collapsed in an advisor to us you know what that's. That's illegal thing and you go or getting cooler pad there on that cost him. Yeah. I Gavin Hewitt turns. Oh what is happened in recent times about the availability of firearms ammunition but if firearms industry business has been brisk and I don't see them change in any time soon even if trump gets elected and Hillary doesn't ask I don't see it fall off as it caused any problems in getting Prada. Yes of course he can hit them. A couple months ago and last month I think. Account through it and through and everybody's place is recession but total long ago to buy these were mindful of the couple months ago in the didn't listen. My friends. Have to have and yeah there's it's funny because well judges through they've been they've been Jackson intact and index in the and I are tellem the same thing now because I don't have anything that I can build forum in your life was like and goaded you know for 300 reform and box that and no more there doggone. But a month ago a year ago. In the room and told them by LeRoy it was now there never be as cheap as they are and then right after something major happens that Aussie 11 of the drive was that thirty people. And and there are no more rights was to give him but yes it has drove and it has driven up the it's my intelligence between. It is driven up the yet demand for basic right forms you can still give the. Above 12100 dollar rifle. But he 600 dollar Smith Wesson sport too which is their basic line they artists and those are garden there there are very very difficult to do it. We did a couple of weeks just because we are mastered the or in this and we did priority bird. They're they're going anything under. You know a thousand boxes incredibly hard to fine. Oh that is. No. What about ammunition. Ammunition is still there that's what that's another thing that people don't. Don't latch to you for whatever reason in these times but that's gonna go to ammunition is never. A bad investment. Ammunition magazines. Narrated there's talk of a band or something people are gonna buy apple of those guns. But then mark that none are going to be a rigidity magazines and McNamee were given me ammunition. And you know that's gonna go to Cerro put an action twenty bucks you know every every week or two aside and by him and where that. You know by a couple of boxes and ammunition where there are gladly sell you have resumed on. And and it's it's a good investment there really is if you need money you can always sell. You know ammunition to to to anybody did at a gun show for usually above market price many hours great investment. You shouldn't be. Buying and selling they dollars and in. In great numbers and you never fell to do that so so mine that it you know if you buy a rifle and and there's a house now and you can't make it. You can sell alright folks specialties in these times from one of the good price for well above which you paid normally. But remember if you do and analyze new method felt. So slow but again I mean we say the same thing every every few months. It's a cycle that you can predict that's what I usually tell people every five years something terrible happens. In every six month. Period six months to a year in between those periods. Something smaller. Yet equally devastating happens that causes people. To buy it right or spurred you know a few days there's a week period that they jump on him. And things to kind of crazy minutes I was now and then six months later some happens. People you know when you don't rifle right right now and and they jump on him and then if you are weaker to that are slower than in every five or six years. A trip coming up on one others this election is going to be one of others it's not gonna did better this and if Hillary is elected. It won't get much worse. From now until the end of time. A promise so I replay so I think so little meetings salesperson I think I think unfortunate as it is I think Hillary Clinton's going to be our next president if that. If America doesn't say otherwise bird that looks that way it. Which is terrible and did. And I wanna say that but I think Hillary Clinton's going to be an ex president. And others say yours and ammo that you may or may not have purchased is going to be worth that's where you can go. Required if five by on why sell it gone to another and it. And say Louisiana. A ball that is technically. Not technically all you need to do is in shore in good standing that the person you're selling it to can pass a federal a background check. So you can't knowingly sell off firearm to someone that you know cannot buy a firearm legally through an effort though. And as that. It's always a very good idea to go see Gavin at the shooters club I think you charge a twenty to thirty bucks to to do a notary. For his notary service and hand right to build a sale. I DeVon Byrd to sell one Don Dubuque. One they are bush master's there and I'm throwing righty through and on you know June torn purse. When sixteen acts in the include the time of day it just because it's your best friend. Doesn't mean your best friend hasn't lost his marvelous for those amenities and ago. Do something terrible so. On June 21 if you sell on the rifle at noon and kill somebody has six. You want to be you know you don't recover a year or your bases so. Include that you can get his ID. Right down his side the driver's license number X expiration date his name as it legally rests on the ID and then both of you sign it. And if you were choose to go to DeVon good idea again good idea he can no motorized for your. And then each of you all can have a copy and that's all you legally need to do. I thought that's illegal part of it and and that may be good a lot of instances that. If it's something that you don't really wanna get involved in about whether it should have known about this individual should have been building let's say you'd really don't know the person's not relevant polls and Freeman a friend of France. Is that a good idea maybe to come CU. And let him sell used the gun and then you'd resell it and do it nix check on the person using your effort felon that way armada. Right absolutely if you look around people commission you make your money I get my money for my gun buyers happy to. It's money very well or spend a few. If you again that this is. Go back to them to be at the beginning of this you have to know that this person can legally. You know pass the next checks so if you don't know and you don't know that and you're not taken any of this advice so if you. If you are again if you don't know in the community and a gun show it feud. I don't know why you would find them off the street but if you do. Go into an FFL have it transferred from your name. To their name and there's no gun registration Louisiana. So it sounds kind of funny but you can weakened take that gun. Out of your name as it sits on. Abacus or. Our enemies and try to back up and explain this better OK so we buy gun from our distributor to distributor buys it from the manufacturer. And then we Celek TU so if they really wanted to whom they gums that gun shows up and a crime. Law enforcement could contacts if it's a Smith & Wesson and you know whatever the context Smith and say. You soared this Smith & Wesson to whom they can look up this year a number that's on excess order to this distributor. And they can cause the distributor distributor says I sold its Jefferson gun. They can call Jefferson gun we can say we sorted Saddam Dubuque that's how that would work impetus as far as registering firearms is no. Gun registration Louisiana but that doesn't mean that there's no. A trail. That it can be you know at a good time. They are just like the idea get my name out of it because when lawyers get involved they want us to everybody right anybody who had ought could have known or should have known. And that way I'm clean solo bomb that was so long ago which is very unlikely Kazaa file click of a little element you know. It's gonna go through a deal like you guys we got to take a break is that a lot of mister Kimball revolver interview with the devil will be back with that. After this time. Hello Leo this is and that Guerrero from Jefferson and now live here to talk today about this month's product of months. As some of our listeners know who come into the store regularly. A big fan of timber and timber products soon several of their 1911 and I absolutely love them. Somebody may be aware Jimmer has a full line of 1911 pistols they also have a full line of bolt action rifles. This year Kaymer has decided to offer something new and that's our product of months they've introduced a revolver. Here with us today we have Ron does take from timber he's gonna tell us a little bit about his new revolver Harry did they have great great city just south Brevard. Sure. It's really exciting to come out with the kubert k's success it's our first ever revolver. Is knowing it that great 1911 Mosley. Grateful to action rifles bullets. Now in victory stubby revolver. It's little two inch all stainless steel six 357 Mac and that's really unique part about it. But it's six shot victory small frame that's that's cool because I've been playing with a looking at it and honestly size was opposed functionality that's on the those are goals glad that you you thought. And yeah its it's very pretty good looking gun but it. It has the weight it seems like it's somewhere in between the full weight and like in ultra lightweight that it is doesn't seem very heavy but it's. It's not super light right right well it is all stainless steel but the way that we engineer this. We tried to take out as much accurate as possible so you have the very solid design. Without a real heavyweight. And it actually weighs in at twentieth 23 ounces I don't. And the trigger on it is absolutely amazing its owner stages well it's really Chris. Yes it helps our purchasing a very nice ministry. And and that's another re feature has gone. We set to trigger pull between nine and half in 1010. Pounds. And really go for no stack I mean you can state center which is great. But if you pull straight through. Some sectors some trees don't feel any variation in the way yes very continues when people there. In the sites are highly visible to their release it easily easily and we actually have some comments. At issue we did recently where people thought I don't like or 1911 sites. I like to cripple it is that is this. To have our other options is the only variation. Well these these groups that you're seeing right now. These these guns going to be Conant production. Later on in the U. Late spring. And direction of the ship was the blue rover rep the fifth these particular groups here are with women and they've been very popular so partisan votes in the gun so when Mike well with something like that as an excess real. Our listeners can't see it. Obviously and that wicket where can they get a view right now they want to look at they can go to October America dot com timber American it's easy to remember. Also you be able to come see it in our story tips don't care indicators this. Could you tell us why you think it might be a good. Revolver for person shooters. Sure it's. What do and it's very easy to operate it is a revolver and one nice things about revolve bruises there's no external safety. Basically just drawn pull the trigger it's pretty easy to do that. And for first time shooters a lot of time we double action. It could be a little tough because triggers pull longer. And they generally heavier rule we just talked about having that roughly ten pounds for forward no stacked makes it easy for first time shooters. Women shooters people with a weaker hands. A variety of departures. And we also in this particular gun we have an exposed back strap. Which allows the hand to do. A lot closer to the trigger soon he was small hands and the ability to pull the trigger. Reached a trigger that's my eyes right on this got a really nice little pull. Really get to get your opponent today. What's can give us an idea on pricing. Sure this just retail on the case success stainless is going to be 899. Probably late summer we'll have a laser group version and that'll be approximately 300 dollars more excellent excellent. Well you guys this is an also also will revolve around super excited look to have one. Yes it come into the stores Jefferson gauntlet and check it out Enron we really appreciate you being here. Talk about of course my pleasure thank you makes. I'd Gavin you may take its job back after that mobile them intro where. I was quite a performance OK what is Europe opinion on the gun if you had a chance to give you hand feel shoot. Mean NATO. I think that if I want this week there was this is from Cuba don't know this was a big deal we went to shot show and done this we're annually yeah it was a law. This was the gun did everybody was talking about this was the big viewers charges that camber. You know one of the the top 1911 manufacturers where manufacturing ROR now. And an apartment and it's nice it's very light it's steel but it it bridges that gap between an aluminum it's. Of all that to light that it's very violent when you shoot it and the steel and it's much more pleasant to shoot. I'm minutes then they got that that's owner down to about one point four inches in diameter which is is cool easy for you to conceal. He got a concealed carry permit. And and it's it's super cool all reported seeing when we ordered warned yesterday that because we got that bit and for the show. As they went on to try again and to this the American order awards haven't try and firm since January or reward enough finally ordered one yesterday sort should be yen in about three business days. Applause line is he says it is it is it's stages very well I mean this is anybody who's familiar with timber Kimberly makes in. Incredibly. Detailed. They're almost like. Coal used to be you know the craftsmanship. Of a pain fitting it's the image beautiful stuff and and then there's the slow revolvers is not them unless the. Well you get what you pay for and you do pay well for a Kimbrel what do you expect your retail will be at the outlook. It well when they first come out the first and gets going to be MS RP it's gonna. It's going to be about thousand dollars. But suggested. What we are Marco ware which isn't much we try to put as many guns and all mining hands. As we can and to do that you gotta you gotta give the people they want which is cheap. You know cheap prices but it's usually about 800 bucks a moment against between seven and 800 bucks. Full retail uses non and in non believer or 1099. But it will be a lot less than that after you know a couple weeks that wound in her hands on some more. I'd guys let train is going to be common assume so tell me about the store hours old that's gypsum come out with a locate this short solar. Of Jefferson gonna 6719. Airline drive located near David and airlines store hours per. Production gonna from ten to seven everyday except the clues on Sunday and that's the same for the new range would just open in the last couple months it's Jefferson indoor range same hours same location just right behind the Egyptian gonna store shooters club Kevin's going to be over the today teaching this class it's open from. It's open every day except for Monday from eleven to state. Yeah and Sunday torn. Two of the six and will be available for autographs and pictures today c'mon it's not it's a very good night guys enjoyed it is always look forward to visit next month. Allstate safe and I get out the way that train I'll see you all next week for another addition of more outdoors will be at the Venice marina. For the fall are rodeo CNN.