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2-29 9am Tommy, the Oscars

Feb 29, 2016|

Tommy talks to Chris Orr, Senior Editor & Principal Film Critic for The Atlantic, about the Oscars.

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We're gonna take a break here talk about the Academy Awards and specifically some of these social questions. Ask theory and did you see any of the ceremony I saw a little bit. I normally I enjoyed a red carpet well ideally go to ENIC what everybody's wearing yeah I mean. As I looked to see if it's. You know Donna Karan nor arm in a series the overall gang and he sent Laura on and then after SE when it. What dress everybody's wearing temperament has done that's yeah well and it's not. The way they look it's just like you know like come out with a best dressed list in worst dressed list. Kia. And is. Chris Seward joins us right now senior editor in principle film critic for the Atlantic. And and more interest. Until well lie gets of opinions on the the whole dust up about race that out I guess I'll share later but I gonna win. I'll let you talk about it houses ceremony. Did anybody handle legitimate point where there any political speeches at setter it's that are ONE actual. Awards itself did do you think that the right people won in terms of performances set. Do you work themselves who would even think of discussing that topic. You know I thought you know I thought that that it was it was pretty clear they're gonna have to. Clear the air a little bit. You know on the whole question of having a secretary Europe. A double weight nominees and you know I thought Chris Rock. Opening monologue it was it was kind of daring in May people who aren't comfortable. But I don't think that that I was also clever and funny. You know I I kind of thought that after that opening bit that that is they could probably left it alone mostly and to keep coming back with again and again it was that much. The year has been cleared and now hopefully we can move on to discussing actual awards. You know I have debt. Active and out my my predictions as easily view and and the only I was wrong on two of the ones that I. Chosen one of the very glad to be wrong I thought I but the revenue was to win best picture. And I can I did not think it was back greatly but spotlight with a much better but he was delighted to be wrong once spotlight on. Elena spotlight about the people have not seen it and I'd. I didn't get that relatively small moment it's about the that they reportorial team at the Boston Globe. And it proved to be that they that Catholic. Child abuse scandal really light open Atlanta. Many many many other. Breaks across the country and across the world but but that was this sort of crucial story. That really got the ball rolling on the on the Catholic child abuse scandal. Does does the content and often. It dictate what's gonna win as best news story or not it seems like now it's kind of become. A little political learn cause related maybe you or not. I don't you know act. Actually think that there was tremendous partner he's where does that through. But you know but the big snuggle last year was was Silva which was a really good maybe about the king. And it was nominated for best picture that never came close to winning and it wasn't nominated for. Actor which probably should what nominate for director you probably should and so you know there are times when you can say that it that it would be if god. A leg up because of politics but there are a lot of times when when that doesn't happen. And I don't I don't really think it means that the other Catholic child abuse scandal. It is not really a political football in any meaningful way with the Audrey that was a terrible thing that happened and doesn't really matter where you on the political spectrum can. You can agree that it was important. Can bet it is double break. And and do what was nice about elected there are a lot of movies made about journalism and very few of them eternal right at all. And it was with the got a pretty bright it was buried not in bold move it was not it was not preachy it was not a movie. That was a big cause it was really about the sort of mechanics. Of tracking down a really a difficult story with a lot of moving pieces to a lot of people don't wanna talk to you. And it was a you know but the relief. Can you know if maybe maybe three or four maybe half a dozen movies about it really eternal right. And that that. I mama ask you some winners and then we'll bomb. The mogul wanted to the other aspect the is supporting actors. Are. Supporting actor you know it was a year absolutely last year Q where which is this sort of weapon category fraud. Where the studios and the principal force themselves lobby to be put in. And supporting actors instead of actress. And victory at two different actresses it didn't believe should be cancer. For the Danish girl who went up winning. I'm entering an era for Carol. It was also sort of strong contender and both of them really lead performances. But both of them thought they would not win lead actress and so they lobby be put. Supporting actress and it's going to really be having it via headline news to. Take control its own category. Stop looking at puppet put there. And they don't call it best artists anymore right they call an outstanding achievement. I. I don't think that they'll call you that. Best actor best supporting actress. I'd so who is the actress Susan best actress. That aspect of the reward for very small medical room. To very badly it's certainly we're seeing it is politically it was a totally review. It's about a mother. Who is basically adopted area that and his. Umpire Manning had that the young child by. Am. It's basically sort of core of her child and their efforts to escape if you know. Basically single room. In his backyard where is it present at the very powerfully. And she's she's terrific at it it's nice when. So they can win for a moment like that and she's a really great actress so I was strictly. The other some movies that make me sullen comfortable life I just. And Palestinian twelve years slave I've recorded. A couple of times and it's on a DVR and I just think it's going to be unpleasant so unpleasant though seriously making art so to watch in the and I think this movie room would be the same way. I think it probably hit it in the it is difficult to watch like you know I. I'm very glad I thought I may see it one more time at some point but I think it's very likely I'll. I'll go back to it more than once more its say it's difficult to watch. And been right there with their their movies that I watch you know 34510. Times and their movies that I want want them think I'm glad I thought that development. I was take a break when we come back Chris I'd like to talk to you about the some controversy last specs of it and I don't think it's uncommon you with the Academy Awards for. Tempted to take a topic in and just whatever it is and just. Just you brought it into the ground drag on the mounting debts owing common isn't. I picked I think last night was that Brooke McGrath I think last night was was kind of a unique case but I am happy to talk about it. I want to buy dad an and the whole process with. I think there's a lot of Hitler Hibbert prism hypocrite if it's been a tough leap year day. A lot of fly hypocritical. Act hypocrisy thank you on. The parts of the industry and also about the academy because now weighs on him confused as they always thought that. Was about the most liberal anti sexist anti racist bunch. That he gets nine will will see what combat Chris who are against senior editor in principle film critic for the Atlantic. Tommy Tucker WW. 921. Talked into our friend Chris sewers senior editor. And principal film critic for. On the Atlantic game and we talked about winners and and performances etc. and we're gonna move on now to. The the issue that was I guess seals in the room. I hate to say white elephant but. About race in Hollywood and so forth and article that was written by a mile an inhaler LA coats the about how it would being pretty white meat taken through the process here Chris or ask you to take us okaying. So. When it comes to a treatment. Or a script how does how does a movie become made come comes to being me if you well. I mean really there is no single process and and there are movies that are that are made it specific vehicles for the particular actors there movies that are. You know that that there's a script before there's even the slightest. Wait gonna slow you down causing a lot of questions hereby and I don't think a lot of people know about the business part business. So which easily lets face it it's all about the businesses and not not the art. You know I wouldn't date BR doesn't matter what network you know it it is a business etiquette. To make money. Brett so bomb when it comes to a movie. Around an actor they don't say look we need a movie for Ben Affleck go right one do you think. Not typically did but sometimes. There are many that are written specifically for particular. Because they are such. Mom guaranteed money at the box office yet and. Even if they're not. For particular actors their script that one. But steel pipe district right there and then he'll bite that grip and that certainly a lot of occasions where studio by thinking like. This is the movie that we want in DiCaprio. And if they might get might not getting. But but I think it is it quite common to fairly early in the process have studio about who they'd like to star. I'd Meehan erupt here if anybody has any questions comments I would love to hear from you at T 60. 187 you can text a question a 7870. For Chris or senior editor in principle film critic for the Atlantic so. I'd script comes in. Where they Taylor once it was star. Or maybe can be from book rank. They read a book and they say you know it does Moby Dick and make a good move. For example I think elmo's did today. Have a movie something about a great white whale but data in cult would Moby Dick. Either that or what yeah there was a well that you last year they've been there if you versions of a ridiculous here. So. There's script comes in a produces look at it I guess somebody says. From guess who the studio president how to they decide whether this will be a profitable endeavor. And who puts the money out because now it seems as though and civil Warner Bros. film. We are about eighteen different producers that they have different logos beginning of the movie ranked. Well it happened and that there are a lot in fact possibly. What I guess that would maybe get support that majority relief expert on the process. There are a lot of movies. Where this script. Belt around four years or even decades in Hollywood. And want it director is is committed to a awhile and that the schedule doesn't work out they drop out and actors are committed and they drop out and you know interstellar over the a couple of years and Christopher Nolan did. That was dispute over these firms eater tenure and Stephen Spielberg never got around to make it and did he wound up letting it go and turn it took a little bit. So. Every every have a different profit but off the process is extremely long and actors coming in and actors go out and directors and directors go out. You know they'll also is that our you know a writer director. Write his own Vivian is gonna directed its green light it's pretty straightforward but but there are a lot of movies were in that process is extremely complex. But almost like a Broadway plays somebody's got to come up with the money for this and answering you know these different production companies. So. Here's my point in terms of black actors in terms of black actresses Latino Latina. A bomb. Do do people write stories that perfect purposely exclude bad blacks. Can stories be an am trying to speed to get Chris Evert on how we get from there to here. That exclude blacks do producers. Rejects stories that have black lead characters. Where does this fit in with OK it will 21% I think it is what's in the black population of the country. 12% 21. It I don't think it's 21% and it but he. I'd in the teens so. You're trying to make these movies to appeal to as many people's Ponce Hillary Unita and am just wondering if you could make a case. For the fact that this is a purely monetary decision and if you want movies that the majority of the population will go see. Then maybe you make them with white people if you want majority of films given the Hispanic rise in population. That people will go see you include. Or find reasons to do stories about that. Do you do you think scripts are rejected because it does have to start with the script right because if it's a I gangster a mob guy from New York chances are designed to be black he's gonna be Italian so. Not talking about racism you're just about the way the movies have treated different people. How do how do you get from casting people wary it's a white role. And not a black role and from that how do you get do not having. People nominated just because they are black. Because I wouldn't wanna be nominated just because we know it they needed a ball guy say take me. I think the real question has there been a huge number roll the vast majority liberals really. That you know they're not historical role and not playing so some living figure or reelect figure is passed away. I think they're the real that is just that there're a whole lot of roles that. That people think of it like role that did not have to be like by April. In terms of what Chris. In terms of just you know just being you know to name a movie that is not based on a real life story. And I think there's there's there's a feeling some orders that you know that the adoption though is that the kind of on the bond trader after a white guy when the bond trader could in fact be a black guy. And again but in the all the doctors at me like that doesn't mean that the majority of the partners happy black guys. But I think the idea is that. Actors tend to be pigeonholed into particular roles where the you know I specifically the role does you know I think gag lower yet. Parliament something like that it's you know war has been made a joke about that but you opt percent might it be black bat Brett. And that there is the whole Lotta these you know he can dramatically that he'd be a white guy as in fact Will Smith. Grouped with hit with a very good at economy earlier back. But didn't do any good at the box office hitch. You look at the different I think it did pretty well I think I think that was mean. Well Mitt. If he's not quite the draw you want what the view with you about being brought Hollywood for benefit seniors I think it's been quite well. I over the weekend. I saw this. I'm. And I'm so he can identify it and. I've been perfect at it well right sometimes the Imus on black people in that and I don't. I don't think I did. Well I mean again there's some of these that is based real life character. I don't know that all the friends and confederate were based on real people that but it felt more. So I mean adult anyone arguing that in them that don't that it is based on a real human being should change the race and. So are we talking on the have a couple more minutes is I find this fascinating I really do about. Is it really racism or is it just the nature of the business in terms of art appealing. To the masses as you know yet to pay the producers Baghdad on doing this for grins and giggles it would make some. Money off club and as you the theater owners can can you hang on. I Chris soaring gas senior editor in principle film critic for the Atlantic talking about. The this controversy I guess it is about black actors and actresses in the Academy Awards or or at least in film. And then intern and then being nominated for Academy Awards and I didn't see it last night if you saw the ceremony. And some of the things that. Chris Rock had to say about different in other artists as well and then on get eventually. To my hypocrisy angle right now it's time for them WL offers news and for that. We got a David Blake thank you David Tom talked into Chris Norris senior editor in principle film critic for the Atlantic dances. Important job from any size and have spent some time with a so Chris during the break. I scrolls through Forbes magazine list of the top thirty I think it is earning actors. Now first off the biggest surprises at Robert Downey junior's is that the top. Would like eighty million. Yeah he's. He's having I agree that earlier aspects of those marvel at these. And talk about a guy get his act together and the other thing that surprised me is that only one black person is in that list of the top thirty in that would be. I'm presuming look at. Exactly. So I don't know of that goes to the roles that are available or not there are two Asians. In the top thirty is well so how would you debt. More black actors involved because here's the thing I would think you're at least the reputation. That people have around the country. Is the Hollywood bunch. And that's. Of how they are referred to it is the most liberal group people you'd ever want to find. If you get a lump everybody into a circle. But are yet I've got no it certainly a liberal crowd. So how then do you wind up where they sexist. Or racist. Number problem when it. This it's a liberal group that donuts. I don't think anyone is really I think that that Hollywood is is well but some people. I don't think most electing the Hollywood detective did you know or racist for saying their things that. Hollywood not offering as many good roles for people of color as many good role for women it. And even more obvious case I think as they are upper firm went after them for and for men. And you know I think it did get the job for screeners to challenge for studios I think you know we have. Seen plenty of examples of tremendously successful films that have you have black actors prompted have. You know lead actors who are women. You know that these sort but he which is. Most profitable movie of all time in the lead characters basically. Did you Ridley who was not only actors but the actress who was completely unheard of before. For it to happen you need to have those roles you need to have those movies made. I don't know what literally I guess it was it was a much people get. Can you. But but if you're looking at a list of actors who have appeared in the highest grossing films. You know actors who over the course of their career their movies have made the most money. Fickle Jack is in the top three in what in the top two. Because he's been in just a whole lot of these remote very successfully. So you know I don't think anybody's arguing that this is that this is entirely be a question dollars and cents. And because you know what that does matter Hollywood is not the only thing that matters that people are trying to make clear is that. They think will be important that they think will win prizes that they think will entertain people. You know it easily with. Very much publicity that they did quite well as last night in Matt Mack. It was not a big issue but it was highbrow with me. It was that it is intended to be a pure entertainment. It didn't make that much money but it won't fix it and it worked it was kind of a wonderful. That surprised if it's the kind of maybe that don't usually wins and it worked it was great. I'd so how do you get from. And I'm not trying to belabor them trying to understand it chorus so you talk about roles for black people. Mom and I need to even say that but but pressure for actors that are of color I don't I don't know what you wanna say here but. Com. That starts with the treatment right that starts with the scripts are you telling me this goes all the way bank. To the writers in that the producers aren't getting enough Scripps. Featuring black people in a positive role and does it all go back to them and again I'm trying to understand how this process works. Well again I mean I think that it questioned it at every point in the process and sure you know there it would probably be good script written that have the wider diversity of of characters. But it's not just the script that earlier in their very frequently our characters to somebody might just sort of you want the top of their head is you know that that stockbrokers that you like but you know there are a lot of black bumpers you know approvingly it's in the back in no Barack mechanic if if you like and there are a lot of you know like Barack and I. So it really for a whole process it's not it's not just writing world specifically for black actors actually. It considering black actors and actually the role that really. Could be any race which is I think you know generally speaking at this point in the American society. The vast majority of world. Are they specifically black and white films and Mueller gonna talk about directors Spike Lee Tyler Perry who's making spot all the money in the world I think. Who will packer. Is it about directors is welded they have a hand in who gets cast. And back to the original question about black and white films it would seem as though it's no secret that Tyler Perry's films. Appealed to a certain demographic most of which. Is black is that stereo typing on my part. Peppers and the other very natural at all times and Tyler Perry's bird definitely and it felt that was a particular audience in mind that. And I think that will continue no matter what I don't think anyone's particularly complaining about that I think it's. More that you know the big movies that are seen by a lot of people get on April lot of awards. Just you know it's been quite noticeable last two years and again I think it's entirely coincidence but it's unfortunate coincidence. That two years girl after you know after. What thirty or more years were up and we have had all late acting categories we have always acting category peers girl. And that is to make people pay little attention. I argued that it. This is really what I enjoyed talking. Donovan neither me. I'd prefer talking about the outlook because movies where who wanted to get it should want well. The reason I ask Chris you know the movie business the united. But that's not really my expertise my view as you know is is I think that it is good I think it would be bad and I think this has recently between. So yeah you're an open about it I'm I'm I'm no expert on the industry. I let me ask you one question only to go that in terms of films that you saw this year that were released this year. Were there any slights to black actors and black actresses in terms of nomination. By the academy. There are like that laughter with a different story epic last year it was kind of shocking now not a at Belmont or with the king will be loved although again. Even in that case I don't think it was really a question of racial insensitivity it was really it was finished theory buried there equally. And very few people have thought they didn't get screeners out to viewers so I think it was mostly mechanical thing. But model that was that was really think that the scandal after that was a great self. It's here now. It is Elba with the mythical beast of donation terrific right actor. Was on the wire but a lot of things. Like yourself look. It appears in the office and and you know just TV program and I think is tremendous actor really do. No he's great everybody's talking about it the next game to Bob which should be fascinating departure. And keeping yep I think. He was deserving of the best. Supporting actor nomination for his many piece of animation but the best actor really organic or one out of people to desert mountain that get. And then the other would be is well it to a I think Michael B Jordan for previewed the Iraqis both he was really really good. If it was a little strange that that selectors want supporting actor nomination it is not it'll lead actor operations for the boat that you not. It was shocking but just sort of unfortunate went to play. When you have a number of black actors who were passed over. And and a bit of movies that is stripped out of optima which was not only about victory a lot of people with. So you know you all know huge gamble I think it was more just a feeling especially after last year. Just. The second year in a row where and you know when black over overlooked and it's not a conspiracy I don't think that it kind of you know. The liberty institutional racism it's just you know on some level it's battle. I mean it takes you where you wanna go Chris that I appreciate the information one quick question. It involves a prediction will Will Ferrell ever win an Academy Award. And it there is an interesting question I would have to say I don't they. Suspect he will now but it would not shock me he did. Bruno write the future it's crazy thank you Chris. Steep growth in the same category and he was terrific and maybe the big short is here you need. Mounted for Oscar but he should have been. You know I don't never rule anything out you know. I thank you Chris I really do appreciate your time hockey and soon. You bet. Chris sewers senior editor principal film critic for the Atlantic and I'm not trying to serve any controversy. The controversy Izzo already been stirred up I'm trying to understand the whole process. And mine again we got from there to here will take your calls we come back into sync so when 870. Do you think. There are. Roles for which and if you think of movies that up a black actor or actress could have been substituted. With absolutely no drop off no problem at all and I think James Bond that Chris or just brought up. Is an interesting an interesting film Jason in Slidell you're coming up next anybody else. 260187. Me right now it is time to take a break and we'll be back on definitely. Some forty of known 949 Tommy Tucker in this league day would jangled goes better for you. Then it did me attacks comes in and says next year's award should be called affirmative action awards. Another one says couldn't use say that there are many white actors that got passed over also. And is I would just like to say. Or like to find out the process how we get from their team here and I guess and any artistic thing regulated sports the best person is gonna is gonna get the job be on I mean the fastest quickest and strongest Wynette. But when it comes to an artistic endeavor. I'd and I determine one actors from the other Nantz might think a lot of it goes back to business. Wary of this stars as they say bankable they're gonna go with them naslund and at the top. Grossing movies of all time in a surprise and avatar is number one. I think they were blue in that movie. Titanic historical things on and how you could've. Mom puts a black characters in mad. And get a look at and it from the business standpoint here and and as Forrest Gump. And I was a thing I was trying to think locate Forrest Gump could have been black but I and dad Will Smith might have done a great job of playing Forrest Gump or maybe. Chris Rock if he was around Baghdad well I Jane slide out moaning and Devin WL. They are Mary York and you. Her well you drinks weren't what you talked about in the business aspect Robert Ayers and yeah what rubies all you know probably made. If you are in a final statistics on the desperate. I actually nowadays. There's probably you know proportionally. You war. Films made geared with black actor torture black audience. Oh dared proportional to population. All of you know I'm sure there's I mean if you look at you know the minorities. All. You know to receive all or filter seem to be geared toward NATO all Wear purple bar bill mergers in. It involved lights yeah. Well there's been a lot of release. You know all future like all hardest. And all the other likely. Straight out to come in you're talking about around. The original and that it's hard a lot of films like the isn't trying to remember Adam. Boys and thank you shorten the rights you know I I don't know Jed. I don't see any of those in the top grossing films here. I do see a lot of Disney stuff and a lot of Harry Potter and a lot of transformers and those kind of things and I got to believe that's because. Kids go back and see in a couple of times I would think I don't know ET at one point design is grocer. It's time now down now revenue number 54 will be act at W. I Tommy Tucker at 9158. Garland Robinette is coming up. And I he's got a lot going on a day in a think tank the debate is in the news again and again did but starting in. 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